Bloody Sunday families slam $77,000 compensation offer from Britain as ‘an insult’

@RF - “I do not accept British Solidiers would fire indicriminatly into fleeing crowds” This is comedy gold. Do you accept that they rape, torture, and harass non-combatants or are you just disputing that they murder them indiscriminately? How about intentionally bombing Dresden, a target which had no military value, to maximize civilian casualties? The numerous massacres of Indian civilians during peaceful protests? Your bizarre fabrications of what happened at Bloody Sunday don’t even match the official accounts of your own terror state. Do you accept that they shot people coming to the aid of the wounded – do you think the photographs and forensic evidence of this have been fabricated?

Save your British bulldog tears Robin we do not need your false solace or your inept reasoning.

Yes, but when does all this raking up of dead cinders stop. Read the last 50 posts not one contains any constructive advice or even an hint of DIY social improvement or self-help-enterprise. I didn't know some members of the N.I population were so bitter and downcast. This could be an alibi to explain matters in a better light that they now regret, or a simply an exaggerated myth that's grown over the years from little acorns of discontent. What is certain is you have convinced me that there's no future for Ireland and N.I. I once spoke to someone running a petrol station in the most miserable place in the USA, Tonopah, Central Nevada, she was more happier than you lot, and the same with factory workers I met in a fish canning factory in Cape Town during the mid-1970s apartheid period. What needs to be asked is: Would you invest in Ireland, buy an house there, or go there for an holiday. I suspect the troubles have done more damage than people think, and all apart from Doloros Ruth (a greyhound trainer) and your leading jockeys and horse trainers and heading for the door. I am truly sorry and regret this is so.

British rule in Ireland has been very much of the nature of an abusive domestic relationship, with John Bull (ie England) abusing, controlling and manipulating Caitlín Ní Houlihán (ie Ireland). And then wonders, when he sobers up, why she wants to leave, and promises to get treatment to keep her on board - but never quite does. The constitutional sleight-of-hand called the Act of Union, 1800/'01 was never anything more than a gunshot wedding after the bride had been raped. And the Anglo-Irish Treaty and Government of Ireland Act, 1920 a judicial seperation. With the father getting custody of the children.

During my bouts of recent reading the person who impressed me the most was 'Arthur Griffith', a Dublin Newspaper Editor, and an earlier 1839 organisation called The Young Ireland league (k/as Young Irelander) jointly and severally these two had outlined in great detail the future for Ireland in a careful and lawful abiding way which in the mid-1920s period led to a 65% vote for Sinn Feinn. (Our thing / Oursleves) What needs to be said is the Orange Order was virtually wiped out and scored 6.5% of the votes cast in N.I. so one must ask what went wrong, these men had a United Ireland in their grasp, a deal was on the table, admittedly it was still to be part of the British Isles family, but it was never-the-less an Ireland run by Irishmen with no great interference from England. So this suggests was De Valera the fool who blocked the proposals and scuppered it?

I do not accept British Solidiers would fire indicriminatly into fleeing crowds, I do accept many of those killed were shot in the back so what must have occurred is the 'trouble makers' saw the rifle being aimed 'AT HIM' turned and fled but it was too late. I see no one's addressed the issue of whether throwing things at the Police and Soldiers is wise thing, or the 21 year old McGuinness being 'second in charge' (How old was the IRA General 22?) It sounds like children leading hyped up children to their deaths, your brothers, and as I said earlier they had a duty 'to advise these kids to go home and stay well away. That's what I would have expected and looked for. I was reading up on the IRA last night, and must confess I learnt a lot, and must admit my memories of it are 30 years out-of-date so my apologies on that score.

The one that should be investigated is Ballymurphy. Although the death toll was different, by all accounts it was much worse than Bloody Sunday in several respects.

@pommyforester2 “if there were 10 000 marchers - then why were those 14 shot, and what made them the shoot-to-kill targets” They fired into crowds running from them and hit the most proximate targets. The majority were shot in the back. Their next targets were people who came to the aid of the wounded victims. OVER 100 ROUNDS were fired into fleeing crowds – this is now undisputed, dumbass. Moreover, there were many wounded who weren’t killed.

@pommyforester“[h]as it never occurred to you that England has never removed the work permit entry concession/s for Irish people to live and work in Britain? “ Has it ever occurred to you that the ruling british commercial oligarchy have created a cheap labor project which draws cheap labor from all over the world?

An absolute insult. But more to the point, why are the murderers still walking around free? For sure, their identities are known. Their present age is immaterial - it simply highlights how long the families have had to wait for justice. I am reminded of the case of former SAS sniper Michael Norman, an anonymous witness at the laughable Saville inquiry, found dead from a gunshot in a car in London back in 2005. He was 62 by then.

Fosters sound logic "No elderly women wer shot" therefore mourdering children is ok. You're p2ssing against the wind Robin and you just keep drying youself off and come back for more. Typical dumb anti Irish brit.

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The ultimate freedom is existential. United States, United Kingdoms and united Ireland's last only 70 yrs approx. But the word of the Lord endures forever. Free your minds. Some men in prison are freer than those outside, because their minds are free. How about the Republic of Me?

Seamus Pal, in the last 2 hours I've lost 3 posts, I guess on this site you can make just one post then must log out then log back in otherwise it's a waste of time. I have not insulted any of the Black Sunday dead, but have tried to point out the one-sideness-of-this-debate. The question is: if there were 10 000 marchers - then why were those 14 shot, and what made them the shoot-to-kill targets. I can only surmise they were the leading stone throwers or the more active unlikeable protestors. No elderly or women were shot which strongly suggests it-was-the-old-tit-for-tat-at play. I do not agree that at an alleged Peaceful Protest stone throwing, shots, or retaliatory shooting should occur and the organisers should have called it off My views may not be polular on this but they are honest and impartial.

To all my admirers including the three Puff Adders: As it never occurred to you that England has never removed the work permit entry concession/s for Irish people to live and work in Britain? Why? Do yourselves a favour and take a look at this online magazine: enterprise-ireland.com. This is the modern-day Ireland, the Ireland that needs your support. Irish people of all creeds including IRA members need to be practical and wise, in our part of the world Britain is the major financial and industrial power, so Ireland including N.I must do business with it and preserve this relationship. As for the French (Ref Bobby Sands St) they wouldn't pisxs on Ireland if it was on fire and the same with 7 other European countries, Germany, Spain, Italy etc.