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Bloody Sunday families slam $77,000 compensation offer from Britain as ‘an insult’

British government’s offer seen as “derisory” after 14 killed by Parachute Regiment

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Curtis quote> What on earth are you talking about with this phony indignance? Curtis you've gone unchallenged for too long, I have listed for you a number of sad events in US history which you shrugged of - even though these events included those listed in the excellent book ''Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee', which described the Red Indian Massacres, I also included the KKK Klan, the infamous attacks on the Black Civil Rights movement (Re: Dr Martin Luther King) I pointed out the USAAF had bombed Dresden, and in my post below I have listed for you a few of the 2000 USA riots that have occurred. It needs to be said that in the prison riots mentioned below the prisoners 'were unarmed and some were shot in the back', surprisingly the NY Orange Riots were an identical copy of the Londonderry Black Sunday riots, 60 USA citizens were shot by US troops as compared to the 13 shot in Derry. One needs to ask why are you so selective in your posts and so irrationally anti-British. My arguments prove the British record on controlling civil disturbances is clearly so much better than the USA? and this is a fact.
Curtis, are you aware the USA has the worst civil riot and disturbance record of any major nation, over 2000 riots have occurred which illustrates I hope how absurd your recent arguments have been: (Viz) The Orange riots in New York involved violent conflict between Irish Protestants and Catholics, This riot caused the deaths of over 60 civilians – mostly Irish laborers – and three Guardsmen. Meridian race riot 1871, by the time federal troops arrived about thirty black people had been killed. Atlanta Race Riot was a mass civil disturbance in which 38 people died and 537 injured. Detroit Race Riot, 34 killed, 433 wounded, and destroying property valued at $2 million. Little Rock School Riots. The Watts Riot LA resulted in 34 deaths, 1,032 injuries, 3,438 arrests, and over $40 million in property damage. The Kent State shootings. The guardsmen fired 67 rounds over a period of 13 seconds, killing four students and wounding nine others, New Mexico Prison Riot, 33 inmates died and more than 200 inmates were treated for injuries. The Attica Prison riot, 39 people dead. The Rodney King Riots, 53 people killed during the riots and over two thousand people were injured. The Vietnam War riots are far too numerous to list. I think you owe the British people an apology and ask will it be forthcoming.
RF – “Most Brits are opposed to uncontrolled immigration and wish to see this stopped.” So what? My point is that the commercial oligarchy that runs your “nation” does not.
Ireland North – “All responsibility for what subsequently transpired lay with Lt Col Derek Wilford, Office Commanding said unit, to whom such arbitray power was delegated by an elected British Executive. Wilford was subsequently promoted to aid-de-camp to HM EIIR” Says all you need to know about the british state – this psychopath was promoted to the highest levels for successfully orchestrating the massa cre of civil rights protesters.
“Curtis, how dare you criticize us, you being an American does these few words not shame you to your core” What on earth are you talking about with this phony indignance?
Curtis Quote> The site isn't allowing my full post but Dresden was planned and primarily executed by the British – the US was largely innocent. How on earth can this be innocent. ''527 aircraft of the United States Army Air Forces (USAAF) dropped more than 3,900 tons of high-explosive bombs and incendiary devices on the city of Dresden? Maybe we should inform him that the oldest USA prison is in Taunton, England, Facts> Between mid-1942 and September 1945, the prison was used by the American military as the "6833rd Guardhouse Overhead Detachment", later "The Headquarters 2912th Disciplinary Training Center — APO 508 United States Army". The prison was entirely staffed by American military personnel during this period. The first Commandant was Lt Colonel James P. Smith of the 707th Military Police Battalion. At times during its use by the Americans, Shepton Mallet held many more men than it had ever held before. At the end of 1944, there were 768 soldiers imprisoned, guarded by 12 officers and 82 enlisted men. [edit]American military executions Under the provisions of the United States of America (Visiting Forces) Act 1942, a total of eighteen American servicemen were executed within the prison walls. Sixteen were hanged in the execution block and two were shot by firing squad in the prison yard.
Curtis, how dare you criticize us, you being an American does these few words not shame you to your core: Wounded Knee, the Black Hills Dakota trespass, Custers attack, the California massacres of the Chinese, the KKK, the lynching of Blacks, the lynching of Leo Frank, the acquittal of O J Simpson, and the reprieve of Nathan Leopold and Richard Loeb. And what about the Mi Lai Massacre, or the fire bombing of Tokyo followed by Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Do you know what the Battle of the Bulge was about, it was the refusal of USA troops to move forward and engage the enemy thereby creating the ‘bulge’ which gave this event it’s name. My father in law could speak German, he guarded German POW en-route to NY / Canada, ,the tales he was told about American troops by them would silence you for the next 20 years. The writer as visited 39 US States, and is Pro-American.
The immediate responsibility for deploying elements of the British Army's 1 Parachute Regiment on the streets of Derry, Ulster/Northern Ireland lay with the British Government of the day. Subsequently. All responsibility for what subsequently transpired lay with Lt Col Derek Wilford, Office Commanding said unit, to whom such arbitray power was delegated by an elected British Executive. Wilford was subsequently promoted to aid-de-camp to HM EIIR. What conclusions were Irish nationalists and republicans to draw from that? To her credit, at least, she came as close to apologising for that in her speech from Dublin Castle, 2011. The only reason one has to continually revisit this is the extent to which others are in denial of it. Can we move on, please.
Contary to RF's fabrications, here is what the british government has admitted about the day - "The firing by soldiers of one (paratrooper) on Bloody Sunday caused the deaths of 13 people and injury to a similar number, NONE OF WHOM WAS POSING A THREAT of causing death or serious injury . . . ." “[T]he immediate responsibility for the deaths and injuries on Bloody Sunday lies with those members of Support Company whose unjustifiable firing was the cause of those deaths and injuries." “All the soldiers who in our view were responsible for the casualties on Bloody Sunday sought to justify their shooting on the grounds that they were sure when they fired that they had targeted and hit someone who was armed with a firearm or a nail or petrol bomb...which they had not”
Why would a soviet mole or communist criticize the Dresden bomb ing – this is just idiotic. I oppose Communism and Marxism and all other doctrines rooted purely in materialism. “Funny how you’re so bitter and obsessed with another country’s history with which you have only tenuous links at best while your own countries history is littered with similar events” What does this even mean?
The site isn't allowing my full post but Dresden was planned and primarily executed by the british – the US was largely innocent. The targeting was of the non-industrialized urban areas to maximize civilian casualties rather than where the primary industrial targets were concentrated
Curtis, I notice 'Scouse Tony' states your one of our American cousins, So in view of this it might be best if you read this before shouting about the bombing of Dresden: DRESDEN. 527 aircraft of the United States Army Air Forces (USAAF) dropped more than 3,900 tons of high-explosive bombs and incendiary devices on the city. The resulting firestorm destroyed fifteen square miles of the city centre. At most 25,000 people were killed. Post-war discussion of whether or not the attacks were justified has led to the bombing becoming one of the moral causes célèbres of the war. A 1953 United States Air Force report defended the operation as the justified bombing of a military and industrial target, which was a major rail transportation and communication centre, housing 110 factories and 50,000 workers in support of the German war effort. Curtis, your not a US traitor are you, or a Soviet mole?
Curtis, is beginning to mellow, he's just made two posts in which he's not called me a Brit-Troll. Is he an Aussie? As for the bombing of Dresden, what he fails to mention is Hitler and is friend 'Lipstick' (Goering) wanted to teach us a lesson so they had the Luftwaffe bomb York, Canterbury and Bath, so we hit Dresden. Most Brits are opposed to uncontrolled immigration and wish to see this stopped. I'm now wondering if Curtis like G Adams is another disenchanted former Communist Party Worker? The Commies have been keeping the Red Flag flying over Belfast for years and no one seems to have tippled, a main plank in the Communist creed is ‘All people are expendable? As for 'seanomelb', the poor man he thinks buying a new pair of step ladders to do the windows is an achievement in life! (PS: Did Dublin council go down the trading estate route and it failed, and why?)
CurtisJohnson, Funny how you’re so bitter and obsessed with another country’s history with which you have only tenuous links at best while your own countries history is littered with similar events or maybe it’s more comfortable for you to look across an ocean for something to wring your hands about. By the way, if you look up the bombing of Dresden you will see why as an American your reference was flawed.
@RF“Would you invest in Ireland, buy an house there, or go there for an holiday.” You realize that the debt of your own terror state was just downgraded and they continue to import cheap labor to replace you? Seems things aren’t so great there either. The anglo-oriented Dublin vision of industrial estate/real estate bubble Ireland was a colossal failure. “I didn't know some members of the N.I population were so bitter and downcast.” That’s what happens when you create a violent supremacist statelet.
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