BBC documentary claims British Artillery fired first shots of Irish Civil War

Mr Knee...the analogy is that both sides realised that the time for a peaceful outcome had passed...seems a bit too subtle for you?

OLonsigh, your comparison with South Carolina is ignorant nonsense. Don´t you know anything about US history?

Achieving material concessions from an opponent with an overwhelming military and financial position (not to mention a terror state with no ethics regarding murdering, starving and torturing civilian non-combatants) hardly makes Collins anyone's bitch. Not doubt, however, that Churchill was America's bitch.

Collins was Churchills bitch

I am really glad Ed Farnan did not write the above article. Because if he did he would have devised a story where he had 1st hand evidence that Barack Obama was the who fired the first shots of the Irish civil war. I am dead serious.

The pro-Treaty faction had won the Dáil vote, and the election...The Four Courts was the new states 'Fort Sumter' moment...

Nothing any, Right Wing, Mitigationist, Coalitionist, Bourgeoisie, Patriotist, Muscle Mag enthusiast, would not do; If Push, Came to Shove ?

There is a lot of circumstantial evidence that in fact Collins was a shill for the British.

I have read this in Irish history books. What is the big news? It's certainly not revisionist history (per Murph). It's been around since the Civil War. Heck, I can't put my finger on it, but there is either a poem or rebel song that refers to this very situation. Collins was a pragmatist and very critical of the idealists in the anti-Treaty IRA and Sinn Fein.

More revisionist history ,such as seems to be in the US.