Archbishop Diarmund Martin warns against rush to legalize abortion

mairint you're on the wrong side of history 'Sex without responsibility" is a puerile argument in the abortion debate.

Now who is name calling lol

Yes Mortimer74. Is'nt it always the same crowd, pro aborts, anti God, anti Christians that resort to foul language and name calling as they admit they want death for preborn babies regardless, just because they want to have sex without responsibility for the outcome - the innocent little child in the womb. Just pay some quack to "get rid of it" and then they can start all over again. God help them.

mairint, right on. Usual distortion and the clowns come calling. No, IC won't report that. That would mean setting the record straight. They seem to prefer the record being stuck, and the endless drivel of SNAP-happy eiriamach and anglo-moron.

Yes, the anti-choice groups in Ireland and abroad have given up on trying to convince the public to wait for the outcome of an inquiry into Savita's death. Instead, they are now mounting a smear campaign. The Life Institute and Youth Defense have distorted Kitty Holland's interview. Listen to it on You Tube. Holland distinguishes clearly between writing an opinion in her own name and reporting on the words of Praveen Halappanavar. These groups are in a panic. They realize that the problem of allowing women with problem pregnancies to die in Irish hospitals will not go away without a change in the law. So they've decided to accuse a grieving widower of lying, and for evidence, they offer nothing except various venues' confusing timelines about who said what and when (there are witnesses yet to be interviewed). It's a self-defeating tactic. Praveen will probably file a human rights case in European Court. Again pressure will be brought to bear on the Irish government, and again there will be a committee that takes a year to submit a too-limited report. It's a shame to allow more unnecessary deaths and compel more women in crisis pregnancies to seek medical help in the UK. "Justice too long delayed is justice denied." And human rights too long delayed is unforgivable.

Will Irish Central report that the Irish Times reporter, Kitty Holland who broke "the story" on Savita Halappenavar, has now admitted on Newstalk 106 that "her story" may have been a little bit "muddled" in the retelling and that there may have been no such request for an abortion after all. In her interview she was flustered, defensive and deflected blame for the uproar on Savita H.'s husband, Praveen. So, Kitty Holland and the forever anti Catholic Irish Times played loose with words. The so-called "Catholic ethos" was stuck in just to put their slant on the story when in fact the hospital was a state hospital, not Catholic. So, as with most of your commentators below, the poisen pens came into action. The pro aborts of Planned Parenthood emerged as usual from the cracks in the walls, lies are taken to be fact by folk with cotton wool in their heads and who think they have the power over innocent lives which should allow them to have those lives exterminated for convenience. Hence the screaming demands for the blood of children. What else can one call it?

Why can't Irish Catholics see this Martin chap for what he is, a wolf in sheeps clothing. Highly paid by the Vatican to put a human face on it's corporation. He is playing the good cop!!

Daley having the power to decide who lives and who dies,how godlike of him.

It is extremely rare for a woman to die in pregnancy as a result of a lack of abortion. Abortion is just a convenience and no, it's not about the woman's body; there are at least two bodies involved.

How can you rush anything that is over 30 years late, and counting!!??

Portia, the Vatican male statelet are expert at usurping the creative power of the Mother Goddess. Just as Olympian Zeus knew in "giving birth" to Athena from his head and Dionysus from his thigh, the Vatican churchmen and their soldiers, the bishops, understand that creative power flows only from the capacity of the female body to create new life. And they are determined to control that power since they cannot themselves "possess" it. I think you're right that "Now it is the turn of the Creator Mother herself" to make her power known. Women have always taken on the responsibility and the risks of bringing to birth, and we must reclaim control over the process.

Diar mu id Mart#n will not be paying his househöld pröperty charge or the 'mansion tax' on his palace anytime soon - special treatment by the cönstitutiön. The rest of us pl e bs must do so however..

eiriamach. The Roman Catholic cult as opposed to the Irish catholic church- is a death cult- that's why it loves the death of anyone- and 2 for the price of one is even better. Better still as energy from a pregnant mother and baby is enough to feed the predators for ages. For the Roman church it is all about having CONTROL over life and death and especially over fe- male fertility. Trace our history back to the burning times and the burnings of the midwives and wise old women. Now it is the turn of the Creator Mother herself.

So when will the archbishop be needing an abortion? Never.

Isn't it obvious that an *equal* right to life is not enough when a woman's survival depends, as it does in incomplete miscarriage like Savita's, on quick abortion? How many more women must die in pregnancy crises before the clouds lift from Archbishop Martin's brain and he understands that it's wrong for "medical authorities" and churchmen to keep deathwatch together over an already-doomed foetus rather than saving the one life they can save? And, for consummate hypocrisy, they'll call this pious pretense of giving "the same dignity" to woman and foetus "pro-life." I call it pro-death because refusing to choose to save the woman's life by aborting the foetus IS to choose by default to let her die and, in the end, to have two deaths instead of one.