Anti-abortion campaigners threaten to shut down Belfast clinic, the first of its kind in Ireland - VIDEOS
Northern Ireland pro-life campaigners are confident it will be closed by protests
Published Saturday, October 13, 2012, 7:35 AM
Updated Saturday, October 13, 2012, 8:08 AM
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seamus60 | Oct 15, 2012, 10:41 AM EDT
Pilib04. As with the issue of abortion itself there has to be exceptions for male input. Example, for the man who is the father of the unborn child.
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IrelandNorth | Oct 15, 2012, 08:26 AM EDT
Do Northern Ireland (sic) Pro-Life Campaigners concern for life stop at an articial commissioned boundary? Do women from eastern and western Ireland not travel to Scotland for abortions also? An easter-European woman representing Ulster women? Being taxpayers entitles one to abortions? British women travel to the mainland too for a variety of reasons other than abortion. If a woman has a right to choose abortion, does a fertilised ovum/embryo/fetus/child have a right to choose life? Best form of contraception and abortion is sexual abstinence/continence. Abortion only in case of threat to life of woman.
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TayandCake | Oct 14, 2012, 11:27 AM EDT
Why are a alot of pro choice vegans??
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Gearoid4 | Oct 14, 2012, 09:46 AM EDT
Pregnancy and fertility are two naturally occurring conditions, that are a God-given part of a woman's biological makeup. The pro-choicers would have us believe that these are health-threatening conditions which can only be settled by access to abortion, which isn't much of a choice it seems to me. Ireland has long since been recognized as one of the safest place to have a child, which renders the evil of abortion pretty obsolete as a solution, unless you want abortion-on-demand, which seems to be the ultimate objective of many on the "pro-choice" side. Womens "health" issues are in a reality a stalking horse for the "right" of a woman to dispose of the vulnerable human life in her womb for reasons of convenience.
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eiriamach | Oct 13, 2012, 09:36 PM EDT
What "Association of Obstetricians" katiemac is talking about? -- a search engine turns up zilch for that group. But the anti-choice fanatics that assembled in Dublin were a political activist group calling themselves "The International Symposium on Maternal Health," including a handful of people with medical training. On the Internet you can read their "abortion is not medically necessary" quackery that begins with the premiss that a maternal mortality rate of 20% for fatal pregnancies is acceptable in cases of endangered maternal health, so if a 20% pregnancy death rate is just fine with you, then you will believe that abortion is not medically necessary! They sent out invitations to obstetricians to attend their "symposium" under the signature of Dr. Eoghan de Faoite, writing, "On behalf of the pro-life movement in Ireland I want to thank you in advance for your support. Please do not hesitate to get in contact if you have any further questions, God bless-- International Symposium on Maternal Health." I wonder whether any real physicians attended. Data are readily available on the Internet to show that katiemac is as far from the medical truth about abortion as a snowball is from the Sahara. Do your own research -- don't be duped.
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Newrone | Oct 13, 2012, 09:29 PM EDT
Aren't we all ultimately pro-"Life" in principle? But the pregnant mother surely should have the last word on how she treats her own body, beyond any other, external opinion, preference or point of view?
Not religious myself, but if I was, I would argue that God put the woman in total charge of her embryo for the 9 months of gestation. Otherwise he'd have made us fertilise like fish. (Though personally I'm glad he didn't!)
Not religious myself, but if I was, I would argue that God put the woman in total charge of her embryo for the 9 months of gestation. Otherwise he'd have made us fertilise like fish. (Though personally I'm glad he didn't!)
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pilib04 | Oct 13, 2012, 09:05 PM EDT
Men should have no say in this, one way or another!
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SingleDonald | Oct 13, 2012, 08:28 PM EDT
Nicomax, That is certainly true!
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katiemac | Oct 13, 2012, 02:45 PM EDT
Oh, and not more than a month ago the Association of Obstetricians stated that abortion is NEVER medically necessary.
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katiemac | Oct 13, 2012, 02:42 PM EDT
Take note of the U.S. Contraception was legalized in the 1930s without significantly decreasing pregnancies. Sex-ed became prevalant in the 60s, but doesn't seem to have any impact on teen pregnancy or STDs. Abortion became legal in the 1970s and neither teen pregnancy nor crime (as promised) have decreased one iota. The only change was that the 'backstreet butchers' moved to Main St. All we have to show for the efforts of the 'Choice' crowd is record infidelity, record STDs, breast cancer epidemics, fertility problems and record low Gross Domestic Product. Meanwhile Planned Parenthood and affiliate Maria Stopes continue their Eugenics work. Remember, Ireland, the Brits didn't think you had a right to life 100 years ago, and there is no reason to think they have changed their minds.
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Nicomax | Oct 13, 2012, 12:06 PM EDT
Women having sex primarily for the enjoyment of it is a hard concept for many religious groups to understand or accept. Deep down it's contraception they are trying to prevent.
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Seanmor | Oct 13, 2012, 11:29 AM EDT
We know that the Six-County state was granted an exemption from G.B.s abortion laws in the 70s, both Unionists and Nationalist M.P.s having sought such an exemption.
Many pro-lifers agree that abortion should be allowed in certain cases, such as when the mother's life in in danger.
But if the abortion clinic is allowed to function in Belfast, future Irish citizens from both sides of the Border will be slaughtered by the thousands.
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jamthecat | Oct 13, 2012, 11:21 AM EDT
Women are not breed mares, and no one should be forced to go through a situation that could kill them. As for these "pro-life" agitators, they're only pro-birth. They fight contraception and education that will help women keep from getting pregnant, and they don't care about the kid once it's born. Their actions consistently prove that.
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