Anonymous $20 million donation saves church built by Irish immigrants
Famine-era St. Brigid’s church to re-open this month in New York
Published Sunday, January 13, 2013, 7:27 AM
Updated Sunday, January 13, 2013, 7:27 AM
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jacersagain | Jan 19, 2013, 09:13 PM EST
Correction, Will… the RCC is NOT at war with women and gays. THEY are warring against the RCC’s moral teachings because they want to do what they hedonistically like and not what Christ taught.
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Will Hamilton | Jan 17, 2013, 04:45 PM EST
A modicum of the truth about the crimes of the Vatican inevitably finds in those mis-educated by the Church accusations of being anti-Catholic. Those sinister virgins in Rome have done a comprehensive job of confusing the flock. Not only did the church approve slavery but it carries on an never ending war against women and gays. That's easy well over half the human race. You won't find another organisation in history with a longer list of crimes than the Vatican.
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Mortimer74 | Jan 16, 2013, 09:31 AM EST
Our resident eiriapiscafailin' anti-Catholic bigot is at it again. Let's correct her history lesson, shall we? When slavery made a comeback from Middle Age feudalism a Dominican priest led the fight against it in the New World (Bartolome de las Casas). Contrary to what she claims, in 1537 Pope Paul III forbade slavery in the New World. His condemnations were echoed by Pope Gregory XVI in 1839 and most decisively by Pope Leo XIII in 1888. My dear Catholic friends on I C are advised of a quite excellent book, "How the Catholic Church built Western civilization" by Thomas Woods.
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eiriamach | Jan 15, 2013, 05:03 PM EST
curtisjohnson, do you get your history from your Sunday church bulletin? If I were to judge from your rude reply to willhamilton, I'd figure that Catholics can neither tell the truth nor extend respect to others: "unlike the Anglican 'church' and assorted Calvinist psychopaths, the Catholic Church never owned and tortured slaves." LOL! Recently, I posted just a little of the lengthy RC history of slavery, as follows (much, much more is available to you if you have a library card): Enslavement was once a form of punishment inflicted by the pope on disobedient Christians. Most Catholic theologians have believed some forms of slavery compatible with natural law. Thirteenth century canon law listed lawful categories of slaves. By the 15th century, papal encyclicals forbade slavery, but only of other Christians, not indigenous people in America, Africa, or Muslim areas. After Columbus' 1493 voyage, Pope Alexander VI awarded the king and queen of Spain the "right" to "reduce" the inhabitants of the Americas to "perpetual slavery" and granted the same "right" to Portugal over West Africa. Pope Innocent received 100 slaves in 1488 and re-distributed them as gifts to clergy and wealthy laity. Jesuits owned hundreds of slaves in pre-Civil War America. You can search through centuries of papal writings without finding an unequivocal condemnation of slavery before the end of the 19th century.
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The Commentator | Jan 15, 2013, 11:32 AM EST
I think it's really great that the church has been saved. I do take issue with fact that the pedophile protector Timothy Dolan is going to be saying mass there. I wonder how long it will be before the Archdiocese will try to take money from the church. With all the animosity present, I believe the parishioners of St. Brigid's should ensure the church itself and land is legally owned independently so the Archdiocese has no legal entitlement to the church. They clearly didn't want any financial burden in regard to the church, so they certainly should not enjoy any financial benefit. They now have sufficient funds to maintain the church so perhaps they should become independent and that way they can have female priests. An opportunity to rid themselves of the middle ages mentality of the Roman Catholic Church hierarchy. Good luck to Saint Brigid's and Saint Emeric's.
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Mortimer74 | Jan 15, 2013, 09:28 AM EST
It's bad enough to have to read swillhamilton's bigoted drivel, likely penned from behind the bars of some secure institution. But to be subjected to repetitions of the same garbage is wasting valuable commentary space. "Criminal enterprise", "armies of mindless clones", "murder, torture." Nurse!
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curtisjohnson | Jan 14, 2013, 09:27 PM EST
swillhamilton, time for your shock therapy. The british terror state is a criminal consortium whose global nation mugging has created all of today’s problem spots – Afghantistan/Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Palestine, the occupied six, etc. Unlike the Anglican “church” and assorted Calvinist psychopaths, the Catholic Church never owned and tortured slaves.
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Will Hamilton | Jan 14, 2013, 06:39 PM EST
It's remarkable that after thousands of years of evolution how easily misled the human brain is by childhood indoctrination. The Vatican is a criminal enterprise which manages to create armies of mindless clones. Children in Ireland have had to pay the price by suffering murder, torture and rape for decades. Most of the actual building are still there. You can walk 5 minutes from O'Connell st and look at the still standing Magdalene Laundry in Sean McDermott st. A building can't be created from lies or misconceptions.
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Will Hamilton | Jan 14, 2013, 06:38 PM EST
It's remarkable that after thousands of years of evolution how easily misled the human brain is by childhood indoctrination. Despite centuries of rape and murder protected from consequence by membership of the Roman Church some idiot will point out an irrelevant minority of exceptions to justify their need to bolster their own brainwashing. The Vatican is a criminal enterprise which manages to create armies of mindless clones. Children in Ireland have had to pay the price by suffering murder, torture and rape for decades. Most of the actual building are still there. You can walk 5 minutes from O'Connell st and look at the still standing Magdalene Laundry in Sean McDermott st. A building can't be created from lies or misconceptions.
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Will Hamilton | Jan 14, 2013, 06:38 PM EST
It's remarkable that after thousands of years of evolution how easily misled the human brain is by childhood indoctrination. Despite centuries of rape and murder protected from consequence by membership of the Roman Church some idiot will point out an irrelevant minority of exceptions to justify their need to bolster their own brainwashing. The Vatican is a criminal enterprise which manages to create armies of mindless clones. Children in Ireland have had to pay the price by suffering murder, torture and rape for decades. Most of the actual building are still there. You can walk 5 minutes from O'Connell st and look at the still standing Magdalene Laundry in Sean McDermott st. A building can't be created from lies or misconceptions.
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Will Hamilton | Jan 14, 2013, 06:37 PM EST
It's remarkable that after thousands of years of evolution how easily misled the human brain is by childhood indoctrination. Despite centuries of rape and murder protected from consequence by membership of the Roman Church some idiot will point out an irrelevant minority of exceptions to justify their need to bolster their own brainwashing. The Vatican is a criminal enterprise which manages to create armies of mindless clones. Children in Ireland have had to pay the price by suffering murder, torture and rape for decades. Most of the actual building are still there. You can walk 5 minutes from O'Connell st and look at the still standing Magdalene Laundry in Sean McDermott st. A building can't be created from lies or misconceptions.
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Will Hamilton | Jan 14, 2013, 06:37 PM EST
It's remarkable that after thousands of years of evolution how easily misled the human brain is by childhood indoctrination. Despite centuries of rape and murder protected from consequence by membership of the Roman Church some idiot will point out an irrelevant minority of exceptions to justify their need to bolster their own brainwashing. The Vatican is a criminal enterprise which manages to create armies of mindless clones. Children in Ireland have had to pay the price by suffering murder, torture and rape for decades. Most of the actual building are still there. You can walk 5 minutes from O'Connell st and look at the still standing Magdalene Laundry in Sean McDermott st. A building can't be created from lies or misconceptions.
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Mortimer74 | Jan 14, 2013, 06:05 PM EST
KweenOHearts, excellent post.
Not to mention the staggering number of false accusations made against priests on both sides of the pond. Of course 300,000 "Irish" readers were suckered by "Kathy's Story." Wonderful irony that this pack of lies broke the Irish non-fiction sales record. The comments of outrage on Amazon and other sites are hilarious.
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Mortimer74 | Jan 14, 2013, 04:58 PM EST
“We would be naïve and dishonest were we to say this is a Roman Catholic problem and has nothing to do with us because we have married and female priests in our church. Sin and abusive behavior know no ecclesial or other boundaries." Rt. Rev. William Persell, Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Chicago, Good Friday Sermon, 2002.
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