American anti-abortion group raising money to fund abortion fight in Ireland
Top Irish Americans among donors to group battling new abortion law
Published Monday, December 10, 2012, 7:24 AM
Updated Monday, December 10, 2012, 10:23 AM
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WoundedKnee | Dec 10, 2012, 02:03 PM EST
Hayfay--What's a "So called 'Irish-American'? I'm an Irish-American, not a so-called one. Are you a so-called idiot? Or just a so-called Irish?
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Gearoid4 | Dec 10, 2012, 01:47 PM EST
This faux outrage at the financial contribution of pro-life activists in the US to their Irish counterparts is rather sickening and hypocritical when one consider the well oiled monetary machine that backs the pro-abortionist movement world wide.
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PhlutiePhan | Dec 10, 2012, 01:13 PM EST
Sure and begorrah as an Irish Navy vet, I would remind you of the fact of "pro life" and not anti abortion. Say what you will, the Land of St. Patrick is the isle of Catholic belief no matter what the socialist intentions of Gerry Adams and the rest of the snakes who returned with him.
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Mortimer74 | Dec 10, 2012, 12:48 PM EST
Excellent news. Where do i make my contribution? Greatly amused by the farcical and hysterical media commentary-social media "outrage"-opinion poll-media back-tracking-around we go again over the Savita case. Having proud Irish blood, I am sure that cool heads will prevail. The "progressive" (?!) Irish seem desperate at the moment to jump onto any story with which to attack the Catholic Church. But they keep shooting themselves in the foot. They are looking pretty gullible from where I stand. The solid Irish of my stock have seen right through the charade.
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stanchaz | Dec 10, 2012, 12:37 PM EST
Bravo!
But...I am sure that Rome will send tons of $$$ to keep their vassal state in line
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katiemac | Dec 10, 2012, 12:24 PM EST
I have no problem if you wish to ignore the Church. I just ask that you try to pay attention to science. The pro-abortion crowd has long based its 'not a baby, a 'clump of cells' argument. I agree. It is a clump of cells, as all human beings are. Modern science can now prove that at the moment of conception a unique human DNA is created. So we know it is an individual, because it is unique from other human DNA. We know it is alive, because it is growing. Unique, human, alive, sounds like a person to me.
The 2nd pro-abortion argument is the tired old 'my body, my choice'. Well science has, as stated above proven that the 'product of conception' is in point of fact, NOT your body, but that of someone else, completely separate and unique.
To say that the woman's convenience outweighs the child's value as a human being, is to discrimate based on size and or age.
Further modern ultrasound imagery again disproves the 'clump of cells' and the 'my body' claims and has moved the pro-abortion faction to new radicalism as they admit that , yeah, it is a baby, but it is a parasite and should be allowed to be eliminated as if it were no more than pin worms. In fact, this argument almost makes the child the 'property' of the woman, which she wants to be allowed to dispose of at will. Isn't ownership of another human being slavery? And isn't slavery agaianst the law in all civilized nations?
Abortion is all sold as 'women's health issues' when abortion, legal or otherwise is not healthy for either women or children, and can contribute to health complications from excessive bleeding, to permanent infertility, to death.
Claims of feminism are lies as well. Why must I suppress the fecundity that makes me a woman in order to be equal? Why must a woman be allowed to kill her children in order to be equal, when men are not allowed the same 'right'. It is almost as if feminists are saying, 'we are not equal so we need this little handicap to become equal.'
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Joe Kelsall | Dec 10, 2012, 12:10 PM EST
I wonder if this Yankee anti abortion group made any
complaints about the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi
children 'aborted'after birth? Let themfeck off and concentrate on the starving children in Sout East Texas!
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liammurf | Dec 10, 2012, 11:44 AM EST
For on, it's is not a "Woman" issue. Must they be reminded that there are three souls in this equation.. The mother, Father and the child. They should all get an equal say is this matter
perhaps the father would and should step forward and want to raise this child. Perhaps the
'kid' might want to have a say, he/she is the most innocent of them all. A life is a life no matter how heavy they weigh Savita's death could be blamed on the medical scene. She had already miscarried. How about placing the kid up for adoption, and making another family very happy. What a wonderful idea.
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Eschetic | Dec 10, 2012, 11:39 AM EST
While I don't agree with their premise that denies early church teaching that "life" does not begin until "the quickening" (ironically, that AGREES with most modern restrictions on abortion - after the first trimester), if these donors are sincere in their belief that they are "protecting babies" (and at least a few of them are), they should, ethically, do all in their power to stand in the way of a woman's right to control her own body. It is ironic however, that you don't hear the usual right wing voices bleating that "foreigners" should mind their own business when it is a right wing cause being supported. I hate to conclude - but it is hard not to - that one should never expect consistency or genuine ethics from a right winger.
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JayFay | Dec 10, 2012, 11:17 AM EST
eiriamach - we're talking about Irish-Maericans giving money to an Irish cause that they don't understand properly. Something they have dubious record on. We're not talking about women around the world being sympathetic - we're talking the opposite of that.
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eiriamach | Dec 10, 2012, 11:12 AM EST
Women's issues have a global scope, John Fay. Don't expect any woman in any part of the world to ignore the protests and pressure in Ireland now in the wake of Savita's death and recent revelations about other such deaths, such as Niall Hunter's on irishhealth.com, 11/15/12.
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JayFay | Dec 10, 2012, 11:10 AM EST
Paradigm - including all those pro-choice people who don't have any kids?
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Paradigm | Dec 10, 2012, 11:07 AM EST
Not at all JayFay - most people make decisions based on logic - hence 82% in favour of pre-natal killing woulde surely suggest the 'unwanted experience'
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JayFay | Dec 10, 2012, 11:02 AM EST
Paradigm - why would being pro-choice indicate having an unwanted child at home? Some very strange logic there.
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