47 Comments

• bobby | Sep 22, 2012, 10:27 PM EDT

  No Gammyknee im not, how THICK you are. You should crawl back into that hole and rot......Dumbass......

• Curitiba | Sep 22, 2012, 04:20 PM EDT

  irelandmusic: Look up DIMIA on the internet for the Australian department of immigration. Don't know much about Canada's system, although I believe it's similar to Australia's

• WoundedKnee | Sep 22, 2012, 03:03 PM EDT

  Bobby: You're not Irish? I suspect the Irish posters here will be happy to hear it.

• bobby | Sep 22, 2012, 11:16 AM EDT

  Also known as Dickhead. Small minded person you are. Who said i was Irish?

• WoundedKnee | Sep 22, 2012, 10:44 AM EDT

  bobby: That word knob-head is one I am not familiar with. I looked it up and it seems it is British slang (why don't the Irish have the wit to invent their own slang?) for glans pen1s. I am gratified that you share my judgment that I am endowed with a "proper" apparatus of this type.

• bobby | Sep 22, 2012, 10:11 AM EDT

  The biggest DOPE on this site is Gammyknee. Proper knobhead

• jacersagain | Sep 22, 2012, 06:22 AM EDT

  Thanks to Wou’Knee at 4.25pm EDT yesterday for a great laugh!! I'm still chucklin...

• irelandmusic | Sep 22, 2012, 01:18 AM EDT

  if that is true I wonder if they will relax the laws to let people in I would love to live aand work there but from what Ive been told you can not get a work permit unless your emplyment is on a list does anyone know any thing about this?

• kubs | Sep 21, 2012, 11:18 PM EDT

  I sympathize fully. yet, just yet, if I could convince my Irish-American wife, I would be in Ireland in a heartbeat. Have never felt such a pull since my visit in 2004. What is it about us non-Irish that have this passion for the land? Norsemen, Norman, Saxon, Welch, Scots, Angles, &, more recently, all EuroNations & third world nations have made claims on Irish soil. So, I will make no bogus claim & will stay in the U.S. Would hope that circumstances occur that the Irish diaspora will return & the immigrants leave that unique land to the rightful owners. The last I heard, they did spend 800 years of struggle to (partially) reclaim it.

• Curitiba | Sep 21, 2012, 05:32 PM EDT

  Russia is the next big thing-anyone who worked in Germany on the construction in the 80's and 90's will know what I am talking about. They have trillions to spend, thanks to their mineral and oil boom. There was an article on IC recently about how they are going to totally revamp Moscow and fix the country's infrastructure. There's not much going on in Australia and Canada apart from the mining and logging, if you fancy a nice office job in Toronto or Sydney, forget it. Get your nailbags on, lads, and I'll see you on site in Vladivostok!

• WoundedKnee | Sep 21, 2012, 04:25 PM EDT

  It seems only the dopes from Ireland post on this site. The rest of the Irish--the ones we don't hear from--are quite sane and smart. For example, no sane Irishman would prefer to live and work in Manitoba or Alberta over living and working in Florida or Georgia. In Manitoba the two greatest causes of death are death by freezing and death by boredom. The Irish here who claim to the contrary have probably never been beyond Manchester England for a soccer game.

• jacersagain | Sep 21, 2012, 02:24 PM EDT

  I can’t agree Australia’s property market will go bust like Ireland’s did. Australia’s economy is booming because of the demand for iron ore principally from China, which needs it for its own booming construction activity. That is why the mining industry there is flying high. Disturbing news is coming from China that many apartment blocks and office blocks built in many cities so far have no tenants or buyers. If that leads to a collapse of the Chinese demand for Oz’s iron ore, then Oz’s economy will collapse too. BTW – Curitiba is dead right about working in Canada in deep snow-drifts! It gets so cold there in winter that – you know how your eyes water up from a blast of cold wind? – your tears will freeze instantly! Good luck t'ya when you try opening yr eyes again!

• oldboreen | Sep 21, 2012, 12:23 PM EDT

  @ankavker. No,but I am suggesting that successive Irish governments,both FF and FG, both with TD's, who were, and still are,predominantly from the the professional middle classes,have shown nothing but complacency since independence as the best of Irish talent leave in droves. One can certainly blame the British for centuries of misrule when countless numbers left-my own extended family included.But Ireland's present economic woes are largely of her own making. Incidentally,merely to present a balanced argument-which country has helped Ireland most since the tiger expired? Nice irony isn't it? The UK!

• bobby | Sep 21, 2012, 11:51 AM EDT

  Your right ancavker, Australia is going the same way as Ireland did 3 years ago. They will have a property bust in the next couple of years.

• ancavker | Sep 21, 2012, 11:09 AM EDT

  Curtiba: You are right that the U.S. is in a hole. But Canada and Australia will be heading there soon. Another nasty world recession is coming next year, and it will take those countries with it.

• TayandCake | Sep 21, 2012, 10:43 AM EDT

  This is terrible, but nobody cares to do something about it. Theres plenty to sell Ireland for 30 pieces

• Curitiba | Sep 21, 2012, 07:34 AM EDT

  "America is in a hole just like Ireland, Australia and Canada is a much better place to go for a better life." Yeah, if you like working for 8 months of the year in a remote location in 6 ft of snow, or in a mine where the temperature approches 50 degrees Celsius!

• IrelandNorth | Sep 21, 2012, 06:10 AM EDT

  Strictly speaking, the Irish aren't emigrating across the Irish Sea to either the United Kingdom (UK) or European Union (EU) - they're migrating! This is so due to a pre-EU Ireland/UK Free Travel Area (FTA)agreement. (England siphoned inestimable wealth out of Ireland over 800 years of colonisation. They owe us big time!) And since Ireland is a state of an essentially quasi-Federal Europe, Irish emigration is a European problem as much as migrating between United States is a Federal US issue. Irish emigration further afield to Australia (AUS)/Canada (CAN)/New Zealand (NZ) is equally a Commonwealth of Nations (CoN) issue, and essentially no business of racist Hibernophobic Ulster unionists/loyalists on line. Ireland currently has 15% unemployment, and 20% immigration, equaling a 5% disparity. Alas, Irish government ministers are disallowed connect these rather obvious dots by their faceless Eurocrat overlords unelected by Irish electorate - being inconsistent with Mission Europa. Many African and Chinese immigrants are in Ireland because the EuroFeds have agreements with both such continents. And remember - multiculturalism is a sanctified euphemism for cheap labour!

• angrypaddy | Sep 21, 2012, 02:59 AM EDT

  Keep your obnoxious Celtic Tiger trash in Europe,thats what you voted for.Nobody wants you, Oz,Nz,Canada are sick of dealing with "shur we are only having da crack boys"

• WoundedKnee | Sep 21, 2012, 01:26 AM EDT

  Warrenpoint--"ideal emigrant should have fair skin and blue eyes". You're a stupid racist fool, Warrenpoint. Keep your garbage for the British National Front sites you frequent. You're a bigoted idiot.

• bobby | Sep 20, 2012, 09:38 PM EDT

  Woundedknee is off his head. He likes to believe "Most young Irish would give an arm and a leg to be permitted to immigrate into the US. The only reason the figures for Irish immigration are low is because we don't let most of them in--they have nothing to offer" Maybe in the 80s that was the case but not today. America is in a hole just like Ireland, Australia and Canada is a much better place to go for a better life. WoundedKnee you sound so thick and so 80s you need to travel.......

• warrenpoint00 | Sep 20, 2012, 09:20 PM EDT

  Old Woundedknees really does believe that his ideal emigrant should have fair skin and blue eyes. A certain mass murderer from Germany had the same opinion about his ideal race back in the 1930s.

• bobby | Sep 20, 2012, 07:41 PM EDT

  oaklongan i never said Ireland needs immigration into it....

• oaklongan | Sep 20, 2012, 06:54 PM EDT

  Bobby, Why would Ireland, given it's geography and native Celt people, need immigration into it? Is is like Germany was 30 years back? German companies brought in Turkish and East Asian people for labor; however Germany is larger !!

• oaklongan | Sep 20, 2012, 06:24 PM EDT

  Wounded Knee, was thinking about all the articles the past year on Irishcentral about immigration from many areas on the globe INTO Ireland... had no idea this had/was happening ! Wouldn't it logically follow that at least some of the lack of employment opportunities in Eire are because of it (immigration INTO Eire)?? I've never set foot on the Eire of my Grandparents and wonder if the unique, 'magical' feel of Eire would be what I've heard about read...? Sad if the erosion of the Spiritual Essence of Ireland is slowly or now now more swiftly melting away...

• pilib04 | Sep 20, 2012, 05:26 PM EDT

  merefalow, what is wrong with xenophobia? you must be young. i am old enough to have experienced anti-irish attitudes and behavior. those were expressions of xenophobia.

• merefalow | Sep 20, 2012, 04:41 PM EDT

  surely there are some people in Ireland to stop the destruction of an nation.whats happening to it now makes the past struggle futile,whats wrong with xenophobia when you see your country disappearing before your eyes,am i tribal,yes i bloody am,and there is nothing wrong in that,stuff your multi racial multi cultural eu driven mass uncontrolled no border package where the sun dont shine.

• aloistmartin | Sep 20, 2012, 04:36 PM EDT

  Long as Finn Gael keeps the heat on Sinn Fein and the Red Shirts, Ireland can always count on its Daily Ration of Cheese and Bread from The Saxons !

• WoundedKnee | Sep 20, 2012, 03:02 PM EDT

  ancavker: You are very patient to reply to the nonsense about the US written by that poster Ciaran. What a joke--an Irishman telling us that we are in recession and terminal decline. Look around your own country, you dope Ciaran! Most young Irish would give an arm and a leg to be permitted to immigrate into the US. The only reason the figures for Irish immigration are low is because we don't let most of them in--they have nothing to offer.

• WoundedKnee | Sep 20, 2012, 02:58 PM EDT

  You can see the future of Ireland already in certain parts of Dublin's North Side. Walk around, especially on a Sunday morning, and all you'll see are Chinese, Eastern Europeans, Indians, Africans etc, etc. Ireland's future--an Ireland without Irish people. It's called ethnosuicide. The Irish go, the foreign migrants say "Thanks for leaving, now I'll take your place".

• eiriamach | Sep 20, 2012, 01:03 PM EDT

  On the upbeat side, as an American I'll say to our share of the 40,000 emigrants, "Welcome to the Irish Diaspora!" The diaspora is now many times the population of the island of Ireland itself, and it offers some enjoyable cultural experiences and relationships, not just a good income, which I also hope you find abroad! The truth is, we need you to help us see past the inbred xenophobia, tribalism, and anti-liberalism you can read in some of the comments below.

• bobby | Sep 20, 2012, 12:35 PM EDT

  Thousands of irish people are coming to work here in London, but its looking bleak here to, the future does not look good for the UK economy either. 213,000 people emigrated from the UK in 2011.

• Nicomax | Sep 20, 2012, 12:31 PM EDT

  Warning: Heads up when you land in the US. Probably no problem in New York since Sen. Schumer is looking for immigrants with brains, but Arizona may be another case. What papers will you produce in Brewers state when pulled over after consuming a few lagers?

• 71regiment | Sep 20, 2012, 12:30 PM EDT

  It is a sad day for ireland that its best and brightess have to leave and are replaced by "refugee's" from all over the world. How is it that so many from non-European Union countries can get in? If this keeps up, Ireland will not be the land of the Irish, but a small cosmopoliton state off the coast of Europe.

• ancavker | Sep 20, 2012, 12:05 PM EDT

  oldboreen: Are you assuming that if Ireland had not become independent that the Irish would not be immigrating now? Because they were leaving in droves under British rule as well.

• ancavker | Sep 20, 2012, 12:03 PM EDT

  ciaran: This xenophobia that you refer to, is more the case that we cannot absorb the huge numbers of immigrants that we already have. And most of them are from 3rd world countries, so I really do not know what you mean by xenophobia.

• ancavker | Sep 20, 2012, 12:01 PM EDT

  Whoever is using my handle please stop. I did not post the comment about liberal chips on their shoulder.

• ancavker | Sep 20, 2012, 12:00 PM EDT

  I know many are also gling to Britain, but I am not sure why. Their economy is doing poorly as well. And I know this because I am there a lot on business.

• ancavker | Sep 20, 2012, 11:59 AM EDT

  ciaran: There are still more than a few Irish coming to the U.S. I met a bunch of new men and women this past weekend. All here in the last 6 months or so.

• ancavker | Sep 20, 2012, 11:59 AM EDT

  if they are coming to the US they better have their papers in order and remove their Liberal entitlement chip from their shoulder

• bobby | Sep 20, 2012, 11:58 AM EDT

  You say, Most emigrants are heading to Britain, Australia and the United States and mainland Europe are also popular Part of it is true. Most emigrants are heading to Australia, the UK, Canada and Europe. The US is not a destination Irish people are looking to move to. Very few people these days look to the US. The US economy is a mess also. The figures leaving every year for the last 3 years is between 30,000 to 40,000. But the number of immigrants coming to Ireland is also rising. 19,000 new PPS numbers issued to non nationals this year so far. Ireland is in the middle of a baby boom, the population of the country is increasing. Also many of the 40,000 leaving are from eastern europe returning home, they are not all Iirsh people leaving in that figure.

• bogsidebunny | Sep 20, 2012, 10:25 AM EDT

  40,000 smart people bailing. But they're being replaced by Eastern Europeans and Asylum sekers from Africa and the Middle-East. It's a pity because Ireland is losing its creme while getting an injection of criminal types. The infrastructure is rotting and the government is inept and incompetent, but they collect HUGE salaries. Ireland is going to be just another Nigeria or Congo in the very near future and the crooks like Quinn and others will be living the good life in 5 million dollar mansions in Boston, New York or Los Angeles..Right Edge?

• oldboreen | Sep 20, 2012, 10:23 AM EDT

  Irish politicians of all parties, will react to these awful figures as they have always done since independence-a shrug of the shoulders and a discreet sigh of relief.Problem largely solved!Unimployment figures not looking so bad after all!Now off the races,nice long weekend ahead!Slainte!

• irishamerica46 | Sep 20, 2012, 10:08 AM EDT

  Irish are leaving and who's moving in?

• RedBranch | Sep 20, 2012, 10:02 AM EDT

  40,000, that's virtually the entire school leaving population.

• ciaran1433 | Sep 20, 2012, 09:52 AM EDT

  Please stop trying to make the U.S. relevant in terms of where the young Irish are relocating to in 2012. The U.S. is deep in recession and lets be honest its also in terminal decline so its not exactly top of any young Irish person's list as a place to move to. Lets not also forget that the current U.S. immigration laws speak volumes about the xenophobic country that the U.S. has been for many, many years. The real numbers of where the young Irish are relocating to are as follows: 30% Australia, 25% U.K., 17% other E.U. countries, 13% Eastern European countries, 5% Canada, 5% New Zealand, and the U.S. represents only 3%!!

• Will Hamilton | Sep 20, 2012, 09:41 AM EDT

  Ireland is the Republic of Botched. Except for anyone making money over the odds most people would get out if they could. With the exception of family and economics there is no reason to stay in a country that's proved beyond doubt it can't run itself. Look at Bertie Ahern: what other country could end up with a potato for a prime minister.