Up to 2,000 children were illegally exported from Magdalene laundries in Ireland to adoptive parents in the U.S., mainly to wealthy families.
Many of those children are now demanding justice for their birth parents and an apology from the Irish government who they say were totally complicit in the cover-up of what went on. Activists believe the McAleese report is the first step in the right direction.
The children were taken away from their mothers who worked under near slave conditions in the Magdalene Laundry system set up by the state and religious orders.
The Justice for Magdalenes campaign group, founded in the U.S. by a 'Magdalene baby' Mari Steed, has fought a 10-year campaign for an official apology from the Irish State and Catholic Church, and for compensation for all who are still alive.
A key advisory board member James Smith, an associate professor at Boston College, said he hoped the Government was listening.
"The women can no longer be held hostage to a political system.
"Time is of the essence, it is the one commodity many of these women can ill afford," he said.
It is believed that only up to 1,000 women are still alive, the last laundry closed in 1996 and there were ten in total.
Read More: My mother died of 'slave related injuries' says Magdalene Laundries daughter
Irish American activists have been seeking to make the Irish government responsible for the maltreatment of young Irish women forced to work in Laundries.
According to Mari Steed, spokeswoman of the group Justice for Magdalenes, the Irish government was complicit in the abuse the women suffered. It owes them an apology and compensation.
James M. Smith, an associate professor at the English department and Irish studies program at Boston College states, “The state’s fingerprints are all over this. The state is now conveniently scapegoating the Catholic Church when in fact church and state were partners throughout most of the twentieth century.”
It is hard to know how many women were in the laundries because the religious orders that ran them have not released their records. When they left the Laundries the women tended to emigrate. Many survivors are in the US.
“There are women in America – women in New York, probably in Philadelphia and Chicago too,” Smith says, “Wherever there were large Irish communities in the 1940s and 1950s. Many went into nursing assistant jobs, into healthcare – into institutions, not dissimilar from what they had left.”
Mari Steed herself is the daughter of a former Magdalene. The ten years she spent in a Magdalene Laundry still affects her. A US family adopted Steed and she grew up in Philadelphia. An articulate woman with shoulder-length black hair, Steed now gives talks and writes letters to Irish newspapers. She has set up a facebook group and runs the website MagdaleneLaundries.com.
Smith is the author of Ireland's Magdalene Laundries and the Nation's Architecture of Containment, a book that won him the distinguished First Book award at the American Conference for Irish Studies in 2007.
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Meanwhile the survivors are getting older. “It’s so important for us to get oral histories, and to try to get compensation for them,” Mari Steed says. “They’re going to start dying out. Perhaps that’s what the government is hoping.”
Historical Context :
• Magdalene Laundries were institutions operated by nuns in which women, called “penitents,” worked at laundry and other for profit enterprises
• These women were denied freedom of movement, they were never paid for their labor, and they were denied their given names and identities
• The daily routine emphasized prayer, silence, and work
• Women had to be signed out of the Magdalene
• Many remained to live, work, and ultimately die, behind convent walls
• After 1922, Magdalene Laundries were operated by The Sisters of Mercy (Galway and Dun Laoghaire), The Sisters of Our Lady of Charity (Drumcondra and Sean MacDermott Street, Dublin), the Sisters of Charity (Donnybrook and Cork), and the Good Shepherd Sisters (Limerick, Cork, Waterford and New Ross)
• All four Congregations are members of CORI and also managed state residential institutions
• The nuns do not release records for women entering the laundries after 1 January 1900
• The last Magdalene ceased operating as a commercial laundry on 25 October 1996.
Mr. Batt O’Keeffe, T.D., then Minister for Education and Science, rejected JFM’s proposal for an apology and distinct redress scheme on 4 September 2009. He claimed:
• The state is only liable for children transferred from residential institutions
• The laundries were privately owned and operated
• The state did not refer individuals nor was it complicit in referring individuals to the laundries
JFM contends that the state was always complicit in the laundries’ operation. Moreover, this complicity, along with the state’s omission of due diligence to regulate or inspect the laundries, breached the Magdalene women’s constitutional and human rights.
JFM asserts that the Irish state:
• was aware of the nature and function of the Magdalene laundries
• was aware that there was no statutory basis for the courts’ use of the laundries
• enacted legislation to enable the use of one laundry as a remand home
• was aware that children and adolescent girls were confined in the laundries as late as 1970
• maintained a “special provision” whereby women giving birth to a second child outside marriage at a Mother-and-Baby could be transferred directly to a Magdalene laundry
• paid capitation grants to Magdalene laundries for the confinement of “problem girls”
• never inspected, licensed or certified these home as “Approved” institutions
• has yet to produce records for the women it referred to the laundries
• refuses to admit its complicity in referring women to the Magdalene laundries
• refuses to acknowledge its failure to protect women’s constitutional rights
• refuses to apologize for its role in referring women to the laundries and therefore impedes “restorative justice” for this population of institutional survivors.
JFM met with Cardinal Sean Brady in June 2010 as part of their campaign to Engage the Catholic Religious Congregations. He characterised the presentation as “fair and balanced,” and, as reported by The Irish Times, he encouraged JFM to “continue its efforts to establish dialogue and a process of justice and healing for all concerned.”
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.seanomelb | Feb 09, 2013, 07:18 PM EST
Robin priests have been found guilty you seem to mitigate this using the "accused of abusing" phrase. To attack the pubs and use them as a crutch to assuage the guilt of those responsible for the excesses of errant nuns and priests is outlandish and irresponsible. The vast majority of drinkers are socialably responsible peopel.Your post lacks merit.
seanomelb | Feb 08, 2013, 04:41 PM EST
I am well aware of they system and how it works I found I had a sister at 60 years of age living in Australia. They were "Exported from England" during the 50's and the early 60's. Seamus are you condoning these practises where young girls and boys were raped and treated like slaves and you say "well looked after" or do I misread your post.
Frosty38 | Feb 08, 2013, 09:43 AM EST
A few years ago I watched a movie on one very much like this. They were taken from families and put in an home. It was a very long movie, sad in the end one of the children became a nun. To end my post seamus you are not waiting for your post to come up. or are you posting more then once
seamus60 | Feb 07, 2013, 07:15 PM EST
Seano. How it worked was . when a young lady got pregnant outside of wedlock or under age, the local priest would visit the home and give the girls parents the whole drill about the shame that would be apon them once the pregnancy began to show. Much better to have the daughter and shame out of sight, in a place where she would be well looked after and the prospects for the child should the parents decide they preferred the daughter back on her own. As a result many of the young girls were told their babies died at birth, not an uncommon practice by the church when we look at what they done in countries like spain as well. Auatralia was another great host country to these children where many were used as slave labour to the christian brothers who did`nt even afford the children an education.
seanomelb | Feb 07, 2013, 06:00 PM EST
I would like to see Daithaic's proof that the vast magority of the people approved of the laundries or had no social conscience. I lived In Ireland and like most people wer unaware of the situation. Maybe the press colluded with the church,the gardai and some politicians to keep us ignorant of events. It certainly was the "modus operandi" of the failed catholic church. Some of whom will burn in hell for their digusting behaviour toward the young children(boys and girls)of Ireland.A plague on the religious hypocrites and those posters on this site who give them succour.
seanomelb | Feb 07, 2013, 06:00 PM EST
I would like to see Daithaic's proof that the vast magority of the people approved of the laundries or had no social conscience. I lived In Ireland and like most people wer unaware of the situation. Maybe the press colluded with the church,the gardai and some politicians to keep us ignorant of events. It certainly was the "modus operandi" of the failed catholic church. Some of whom will burn in hell for their digusting behaviour toward the young children(boys and girls)of Ireland.A plague on the religious hypocrites and those posters on this site who give them succour.
seanomelb | Feb 07, 2013, 06:00 PM EST
I would like to see Daithaic's proof that the vast magority of the people approved of the laundries or had no social conscience. I lived In Ireland and like most people wer unaware of the situation. Maybe the press colluded with the church,the gardai and some politicians to keep us ignorant of events. It certainly was the "modus operandi" of the failed catholic church. Some of whom will burn in hell for their digusting behaviour toward the young children(boys and girls)of Ireland.A plague on the religious hypocrites and those posters on this site who give them succour.
seamus60 | Feb 07, 2013, 02:31 PM EST
Culchiewoman. So it was a conveyor belt set up.
seamus60 | Feb 07, 2013, 02:28 PM EST
These baby stealing prisons were just as active in the North.
Gordan Duggan | Feb 07, 2013, 01:30 PM EST
Paul Hogan: I have heard this story before. Murdered Irish Journalist Veronica Guerin said she talked to an elderly woman on an Aer Lingus flight in the mid-1990s who told her that when she was an Aer Lingus air hostess in the 1960s, she was used to taking care of babies sent across to the U.S. for adoption. Unfortunately, Veronica was unable to investigate the matter further as she was murdered by drug barons a short time after. However, another Irish writer (whose name I can't remember) wrote a book called "Stolen Babies".
Gordan Duggan | Feb 07, 2013, 01:21 PM EST
Paul Hogan: I have heard this story before. Murdered Irish Journalist Veronica Guerin said she talked to an elderly woman on an Aer Lingus flight in the mid-1990s who told her that when she was an Aer Lingus air hostess in the 1960s, she was used to taking care of babies sent across to the U.S. for adoption. Unfortunately, Veronica was unable to investigate the matter further as she was murdered by drug barons a short time after. However, another Irish writer (whose name I can't remember) wrote a book called "Stolen Babies".
Gordan Duggan | Feb 07, 2013, 01:21 PM EST
Paul Hogan: I have heard this story before. Murdered Irish Journalist Veronica Guerin said she talked to an elderly woman on an Aer Lingus flight in the mid-1990s who told her that when she was an Aer Lingus air hostess in the 1960s, she was used to taking care of babies sent across to the U.S. for adoption. Unfortunately, Veronica was unable to investigate the matter further as she was murdered by drug barons a short time after. However, another Irish writer (whose name I can't remember) wrote a book called "Stolen Babies".
johnshiel | Feb 07, 2013, 09:19 AM EST
comments by daithaic make sense; maybe this is mostly about lawyers on the prowl for a big share of a good payout...
johnshiel | Feb 07, 2013, 09:18 AM EST
daithaic: highly cogent commentary. As suggested by another poster, this may be mostly a field trip of lawyers hunting for a pile of cash upon which to pounce...
johnshiel | Feb 07, 2013, 09:18 AM EST
daithaic: highly cogent commentary. As suggested by another poster, this may be mostly a field trip of lawyers hunting for a pile of cash upon which to pounce...
johnshiel | Feb 07, 2013, 09:17 AM EST
daithaic: highly cogent commentary. As suggested by another poster, this may be mostly a field trip of lawyers hunting for a pile of cash upon which to pounce...
johnshiel | Feb 07, 2013, 09:17 AM EST
daithaic: highly cogent commentary. As suggested by another poster, this may be mostly a field trip of lawyers hunting for a pile of cash upon which to pounce...
johnshiel | Feb 07, 2013, 09:17 AM EST
daithaic: highly cogent commentary. As suggested by another poster, this may be mostly a field trip of lawyers hunting for a pile of cash upon which to pounce...
anglo-norman | Feb 06, 2013, 01:03 PM EST
Holy Catholic Ireland
pilib04 | Feb 06, 2013, 08:56 AM EST
What disturbs me the most about this is that my Church is still refusing at this very late date, to take ownership of their responsibility in this matter. It is absolutely horrifying, after all of the child rape cases, that the Church continues to stonewall on every last evil that it has perpetrated on the faithful. Little wonder that Catholics are leaving the Church in droves! Little wonder how few attend Sunday Mass.
pilib04 | Feb 06, 2013, 08:50 AM EST
daithaic, one could also absolve the Taliban for their attacks on Afghan women using your logic. The facts are, that if this behavior on the part of the state and church were made public, it would have been indefensible. To suggest that the working class knew and did nothing, is simply defending this outrageous behavior on the part of the Catholic Church and Irish government. I have heard this kind of defense before for other atrocities (some much worse), and it has always seemed to be that, a defense, an excuse! The state and the Church are responsible for their actions. They may have colluded with the police and the intelligentsia, but DO NOT blame the Irish working class for this outrage!
pilib04 | Feb 06, 2013, 08:41 AM EST
So our Catholic Church and the Irish government behaved like the Taliban?
daithaic | Feb 06, 2013, 05:50 AM EST
I would not defend these Magdalen Laundries for a moment but there is a certain collective amnesia at work in the Irish psyche. They reflected accurately the reactionary social consensus of the time and the social control exercised by the Church and State with which most people including the educational system, courts, Gardai and much else were happy to collude. It may suit now to blame the "State" as something removed from the population but in fact the vast majority of the Irish people colluded and agreed with the repressive social system of the time and were happy for people who disagreed with the thought control to emigrate and to dump our "problems" abroad. Ireland was not a prison but the social consensus made it so and the Church and States actions and control reflected this reality.
daithaic | Feb 06, 2013, 05:49 AM EST
I would not defend these Magdalen Laundries for a moment but there is a certain collective amnesia at work in the Irish psyche. They reflected accurately the reactionary social consensus of the time and the social control exercised by the Church and State with which most people including the educational system, courts, Gardai and much else were happy to collude. It may suit now to blame the "State" as something removed from the population but in fact the vast majority of the Irish people colluded and agreed with the repressive social system of the time and were happy for people who disagreed with the thought control to emigrate and to dump our "problems" abroad. Ireland was not a prison but the social consensus made it so and the Church and States actions and control reflected this reality.
culchiewoman | Feb 06, 2013, 04:38 AM EST
I believe there's some confusion in this article. There was a difference between mother-baby homes and Magdalene Laundries. While many of our mothers (my own included) spent time in Magdalene Laundries either before or after having a child out of wedlock, the adoptions were organised by mother-baby homes/adoption societies in Ireland, not the Laundries themselves. It is important to make this distinction clear.
seanomelb | Feb 05, 2013, 08:31 PM EST
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Collette2 | Feb 05, 2013, 08:10 PM EST
Hat's off to those now adult children. How comforting especially to the mother's that bore you.
seanomelb | Feb 05, 2013, 07:15 PM EST
M McGRath and Thomas need areality check and move on from the land of denial they live in. Their comments are disgusting and do not deserve a reply.
RobinForester | Feb 05, 2013, 05:00 PM EST
What a serious subject this is turning into. It was prominently reported on the BBC London TV news tonight, and should be front page news in tomorrows papers. What's disturbing for many is the concealment actions of the Church, and the person who endeavoured to make sure the truth was never revealed. In other words 'to carry one as if nothing untoward had happened, and the rights of the mothers and adopted children were off little consequence. We can surmise that off the 2000 adopted children shipped to the USA, they must have by now at least 12500 descendants, being 12500 people who have Irish relations they'll never meet, see or whose company they may have enjoyed. No doubt some of these will visit Ireland one day; and it seems a great pity that they could have an aunt or uncle, brother and sister in the next street or town and will never know. The Magadlene Laundry adoption records need to be sealed, protected and handed over to the Irish State Archives for safety, so when some ''lost to Ireland'' child makes an enquiry asking for information on his Irish birth parents he/she can be supplied with copies of the original records and encouraged to meet them. One hopes there will be dozens of happy meetings and tears of joy when this occurs.
RobinForester | Feb 05, 2013, 05:00 PM EST
What a serious subject this is turning into. It was prominently reported on the BBC London TV news tonight, and should be front page news in tomorrows papers. What's disturbing for many is the concealment actions of the Church, and the person who endeavoured to make sure the truth was never revealed. In other words 'to carry one as if nothing untoward had happened, and the rights of the mothers and adopted children were off little consequence. We can surmise that off the 2000 adopted children shipped to the USA, they must have by now at least 12500 descendants, being 12500 people who have Irish relations they'll never meet, see or whose company they may have enjoyed. No doubt some of these will visit Ireland one day; and it seems a great pity that they could have an aunt or uncle, brother and sister in the next street or town and will never know. The Magadlene Laundry adoption records need to be sealed, protected and handed over to the Irish State Archives for safety, so when some ''lost to Ireland'' child makes an enquiry asking for information on his Irish birth parents he/she can be supplied with copies of the original records and encouraged to meet them. One hopes there will be dozens of happy meetings and tears of joy when this occurs.
tucsondub | Feb 05, 2013, 04:03 PM EST
You have to consider the source. In a lot of the cases, a relative (fathers in most cases) had the girls committed to the slave institutions because the girls were considered to be “bad” because of their interest in boys. In other cases, the girls were molested by a male relative so were considered to be the sinful one and they were shipped off to the institution by the family. I was taught by the Sisters of Mercy by both nuns and lay teachers and in my experience, most of them were frustrated old biddies. In one case, my friend and I were whispering to each other and the nun came to us at our desks and banged our heads together!!!
sidhemajik | Feb 05, 2013, 03:03 PM EST
Lofty7, so glad your mother escaped and had a happy life.
Jacob | Feb 05, 2013, 02:45 PM EST
Home Rule = Rome Rule
JohnnyMac | Feb 05, 2013, 01:19 PM EST
Come on now, lets stop these ridicuoulus law suits that seek "historical" damages. I'm a direct decendant of Adam (Adam & Eve). I'm very hurt that Eve gave Adam an apple to eat. Tommorrow, I'm going to seek a class action suit in everyone's name against all apple orchard owners.
Paul Hogan | Feb 05, 2013, 12:57 PM EST
There will never be peace in Northern Ireland as long as the bishops and Apostolic Nuncio from Rome push to maintain apartheid in education. This is supposed to be the Christian way. One does not have to go too far across the border to Enniskillen to see the children getting out of two different school systems and never talk to one another.
anglo-norman | Feb 05, 2013, 12:57 PM EST
Great story Lofty7, I commend your mother for her courage & strong-mindedness. Sadly a lot of Irish Catholics didn't & don't have the same qualities.
Lofty7 | Feb 05, 2013, 12:45 PM EST
My mother was sent to one of these places for marrying my father & having a child with him.Her crime was that he was Church of Ireland.At the time,he was serving in the Belfast Fire brigade during the blitz there.For which he had volunteered,even though he came from Co.Carlow. Thankfully she was strong enough to jump the wall after 5 days & never had anything to do with the Catholic church ever again.They went on to have 6 more children & lived a full & happy life. And can I say to Michael McGrath,you are a pompous buffoon & have the typical attitude of all those who are destroying this country today!!
Paul Hogan | Feb 05, 2013, 12:39 PM EST
Further to my post on slave traffic in babies I am not a conspiracy theorist but I will bet that the New York Archdiocese was involved in this some way. There should be soe serious questions asked. Cardinal Spellman is not around any more. But Cardinal Dolan should be asked a question.
Athcliath 1963 | Feb 05, 2013, 12:34 PM EST
George J. Catholic bashing for money is it? Cop on to yourself, who do you thinjk the customers of te laundrys were? The Catholic(CULT) Church made more money from this slave labor over the years and from selling the babies of these unfortunate people to rich Irish Americans. It has been shown that these laundrys customers were Irish Prisons, The Irish Army, Irish hotels, and many other state run organizations. These women recieved nothing in return except abuse, neglect and loss of freedom. Your "Maids Dancing at the Crossroads" view of Ireland and the Catholic Church is dead and buried. Hopefully the Women that are still living that went through the horror that the catholic church brought down on them will take them to the cleaners and for every penny that vile organization has stolen.
lokionline | Feb 05, 2013, 12:31 PM EST
This sorry tale is strong argument for the separation of church and state. History is clear. When these institutions combine, prejudice, cruelty and the most ungraceful (or "ungodly", if that suits your worldview better) behaviors follow.
Happyhippo | Feb 05, 2013, 12:11 PM EST
In relation to the Magdelene laundries scandal,I have to agree with some of the comments that church and state should never be allowed in bed together in an unholy and corrupt marrage of convenience,the two most powerfull organisions that have most control over peoples lives on the premise that power corrupts and total control totally corrupts,and Ireland in the past is only one example but there are many more even to this present day,the idea that a government or religion can have total control,this should be a warning that your freedom should never be taken for granted or compromised either to the state or to a religion.
george j. | Feb 05, 2013, 12:07 PM EST
I protest,there is way more to this story than is being exposed.This is Catholic bashing at best(for money)
Athcliath 1963 | Feb 05, 2013, 11:02 AM EST
@MichaelMcGrath There is NEVER an excuse for the ABUSE that the Catholic Church Meted out to those unfortunates and others the world over. There is NEVER an excuse for the subsequent cover up and misleading of investigators that occured on the orders of Popes right the way down to Priests and Nuns. How dare you try to minimalize what happened to these unfortunate people with your ridiculous comments that they were better off in the Magdalene slave shops. You must be a member of one of those apologist groups like the AOH or Opus Dei or the like. Take your head out of the sand!
MichaelMcGrath | Feb 05, 2013, 10:50 AM EST
It might be understandable in the context of the times when many were driven out of Ireland by hunger. It might be explained that some were indeed criminals, many prostitutes and argued that it was better than being locked up in jail, as otherwise may have happened. They were very different times , not only in Ireland , but around the world , when nobody had anything. They are now practising inhumanity by replacing their own citizens by immigrants , and there's nothing at all about it? But back then there was really no hope of survival otherwise excpet in Magdalene and the like.
Paul Hogan | Feb 05, 2013, 10:47 AM EST
What happened to these young children is very very sad. I know for a fact that in 1964 when I got married in Jackson Heights my wife's friend who came to our wedding was an airline hostess with Aer Lingus. She carried babies on an Aer Lingus flight together with another stewardess. When they got to Kennedy Airport they just handed over the babies to people who were waiting for them. No questions asked. The State Department or Immigration service in US should be made to investigate this slave traffic. One other thing. When I was teaching in a junior college in Chicago in 1980 a young boy who was in my class came to me and told me that he was adopted in America and he wanted to find out how he would go about finding his Irish parents. I remember telling him to ask his adopted American parents. There should be no secrecy in this. The Minister for Foreign Affairs in Ireland should demand an investigation from the American State Department. Let's call it what it is, slave traffic introduced by the Catholic Church in Ireland.
Thomas84 | Feb 05, 2013, 10:47 AM EST
For those saying the church should apologise and maybe get some positive press. Allow me to say this, you both sicken and disgust me. How do you apologise to a mother whos baby you stole and sold like live stock. HOW. There is only one answer to these revelations, drag every one of these creatures to the sea and throw them into it. Rapists, killers, child kidnappers and sellers of human live stock.
nicgearailt | Feb 05, 2013, 10:38 AM EST
another black eye for the country..will there be no end..how could this behaviour have been tolerated..such inhumanity to it's citizens..I recall our mother was fearful that her children would be put in an orphanage ,when our father died in 1949,leaving her with 8 children..fortunately it was never an issue.Who knows what influences the church had in those days...scaring the innocents...
Athcliath 1963 | Feb 05, 2013, 10:25 AM EST
There was another group of people who did the same thing in another country that colluded with the knowledge of the state and many many piblic servants. They took those that they deemed the dregs of society, those they deemed unfit and undesireable and put them in factories and workhouses and made them work under terrible conditions for no pay and would not let them leave. They were called the Nazis. The CULT that is the Catholic Church over the centuries puts Nazis in the halpenny place as we used to say years ago. How this CULT is allowed to exist over hundreds of years of abuse and yes, MURDER, is beyond me. How they have brainwashed Governments and officials in high places in countries all over the world including here in the US is just unbelievable. Why we don't demand the demise of this CULT is one of the great mysteries of man kind. If you ever wanted proof of what happens when you have the UNHOLY (no pun intended) marriage of church and state look no further than Ireland. This should be a warning, whether they are Catholics, Presbyterians, Muslims Hindus...and on and on, Religion should NEVER be allowed to have the kind of influence over people and officials in government so they can dole out the kind of abuses that the Catholic church has done over hundreds of years. SHUT THIS CULT DOWN!!! David Koresh and the Branch Dividians were amatures compared to these animals.
handsome68 | Feb 05, 2013, 10:14 AM EST
I commented yesterday about this. Having seen the movie a few years ago, I thought that the matter was being examined and, for example, some monetary restitution being provided. Now I learn that much still seems to be unaccounted for, and to be hidden. The last time (of 3) that I was in Ireland, my cousin reminded me that the poverty was even more intense than I had understood it to be in, say, the 1920s and 1930s. Poverty and ignorance, as Dickens mentioned in "A Christmas Carol", were, and remain, really demonic (enemies).
RobinForester | Feb 05, 2013, 09:46 AM EST
This problem is a lot more serious than first reported. The crux of the matter is "Was the mother's placed under any duress to part with their babies". "Were they offered or allowed access to independent legal advice or representation".Did the fathers have any say in the adoption and were they asked to give their consent or interviewed?. Where the child's grandparents consulted and their views sought and recorded'. If the mother was young, possibly immature and uncertain then who represented her and acted as her nominal guardian. With deep` respect to the Irish State, it needs to be pointed out that these were Irish children with all that entails, they were entitled to an Irish birthright and identity and no matter 'how well meaning the cause or end result' (the adoption,) you cannot part a mother and child without taking any of the steps mentioned above to protect the mother and child best interests and welfare. I would argue before these children were adopted a Consent Order from an Irish Court should have been obtained. I get the strong impression that this 'informal adoption process' was in reality a baby farm operation and one needs to ask did money change hands to facilitate the adoption?. Who got this money is of some importance here, and how much did the adopting parents hand over and what became of it, and these children and what attempts were made to monitor there progress in America or elsewhere? . The records do not belong to the Nuns, the Laundries concerned, or the Church, but to the National Archives of Ireland: these records are State property and must be handed over or `seized. .
LaurelFL | Feb 05, 2013, 09:28 AM EST
For the sake of honesty and for the sake of integrity from the Roman Catholic Church who really needs some transparency at this point, it would behoove them to acknowledge the horrendous wrong, apologize and compensate ... Make it right. The Church could benefit ... try some common sense!
Frosty38 | Feb 05, 2013, 09:15 AM EST
A few years ago I watched a movie on this. I was up till 3am and could not stop watching it. it was very sad. At the end of the movie they had one of the children who was a Nun in the end and three of them stayed in touch
Seanmor | Feb 05, 2013, 08:50 AM EST
If the gov't of the "Free" State and the leaders of the Romabn church can find countless millions to send to Africa, they can also afford to adquately compensate these Irish women whose babies were stolen for export to the U.S.
bunkerisland | Feb 05, 2013, 08:26 AM EST
A public apology and statutory compensation for all those that worked in the laundries seems the least the state and church should do. The financial obligation lies with both the for-profit laundry overseers and the State. Pay up promptly for your decades of child exploitation and slavery.