132 Comments

• kinvara7 | Jul 26, 2012, 12:20 PM EDT

  As regards your final statement: “God help the blacks and any other group that differs from the 'Irish norm'”, it seems you have an overly negative view of Ireland; a backward view, I would say. Many immigrants have been very successful in Ireland: In 2007, Rotimi Adebari became Ireland’s first black mayor, seven years after he moved to Ireland from Nigeria. The Irish Republic is no utopia, but it is a much finer place than people like you will ever admit. Prejudices still exist, but don’t they exist in Britain? Have you heard of the BNP?

• kinvara7 | Jul 26, 2012, 12:17 PM EDT

  From what I can gather, in 2002, Protestant numbers stood at 146,226 compared to 327,179 in 1911. A fall, yes, but not as great as your statement would suggest. Clearly, economic issues affected Protestants and Catholics (Ireland’s population in general fell for a number of years, this would have affected protestant numbers disproportionately, given they were lower to begin with). Many Protestants living near the border would have moved north of the border to avail of opportunities both economic and social. The Catholic Church’s Ne Temere decree also played a part. However, the number has been increasing since the 1990’s. The 2002 census showed Protestant numbers in the south had risen from 107,000 in 1991 to 146,226 in 2002. The 2006 Census in the Republic of Ireland showed that the numbers of people describing themselves as members of the Church of Ireland increased in every county.

• kinvara7 | Jul 26, 2012, 12:16 PM EDT

  As regards your second statement: ‘bullying and intimadation are par for the course for non-roman catholics in Ireland’ [sic] I think it is ridiculous, particularly in the context of 21st century Ireland. Could you please explain why a quarter of Ireland’s Presidents have been Protestant? (Compare it with the UK, where the Act of Settlement, 1701 makes it unlawful for a catholic to be the head of state; or for the head of state to be married to a catholic). In general I think your statement tells us a great deal about your attitude towards Ireland, and the weight that you might attach to certain issues.

• kinvara7 | Jul 26, 2012, 12:15 PM EDT

  You ask: ‘Does Sinn Fein not sound and act like a national socialist perty?’ [sic]. Well, I don’t support Sinn Fein, but the answer to your question is no. A national socialist party would be a far right party, and SF are on the left of the political spectrum. Furthermore, you will be aware that they are now the second largest party in the Northern Ireland Assembly and that they share power with the DUP; the last election seemed to go very smoothly there, so hopefully things will only get better with time.

• kinvara7 | Jul 26, 2012, 07:31 AM EDT

  Fine Gael was ‘born’ from the merger of Cumann na nGaedheal, the National Centre Party and the National Guard (formerly known as the ACA). However, the new party was essentially a larger version of Cumann na nGaedheal, the party created in 1923 by the Pro-Treaty leaders of the Irish Free State. Please examine the history of Cumann na nGaedheal.

• kinvara7 | Jul 26, 2012, 07:18 AM EDT

  @Schon: Despite their fascist affectations the Blueshirts (ACA) were not fascists in the literal meaning of the term. The ACA was formed in 1932, to, inter alia, oppose the perceived threat coming from their political opponents, the Irish Republican Army and Fianna Fáil. Maurice Manning examines the question of whether or not the Blueshirts were really fascist or merely an organization that adopted some of the external trappings of that movement, in his book: The Blueshirts. He concludes that the latter was the case. He notes that there was no desire for violence for its own sake, no extreme nationalism no innate contempt for democracy, and no anti-Semitism. In any event, it was an organization that only lasted a few years; the final membership figure in 1935 was 4,050 members. Furthermore, It has to be remembered that the word 'fascism' has overtones now that were absent in the early 1930's. Eoin O’Duffy, did see himself as a fascist, however, how does he give Ireland ‘a history of national socilaism’, do you not accept that there were many more in Britain that considered themselves fascists? Please examine the history of the British Union of Fascists and National Socialists.

• Schon | Jul 18, 2012, 11:46 AM EDT

  It would be against their Human Rights to be sent home. In the late 60s early 70s Enoch Powell suggested giving immigrants a payment if the agreed to return to their home country and look what happened to him.

• kelto67 | Jul 17, 2012, 09:07 PM EDT

  Helping them return back home might be the best solution of all.

• Schon | Jul 17, 2012, 03:26 PM EDT

  kinvara7, sorry I haven't got back to you sooner, but I have trying to educate seanomelb with regards to Irish history. anywho... Fine Gael was born from the facist Blue Shirts, a group of ex-Irish army members that organised mass rallies styling themselves on Mussolini's Blackshirts. Eoin O'Duffy a leader of the Blue SHirts tried to create links between the IRA and Nazi politicians while Sean Russel, IRA, went to the Germans and asked for weapons and politiacal support. Membership of the Blue Shirts was for Irish nationals or that prospective mmebers must adhere to the 'Christian faith' They participated, as did the German and Italism national socialist, in street fighting with opposition polical and criminal groups. More recently you have your wonderful Snn Fien heros and their sectarian liberation army, bullies one and all. Does Sinn Fein not sound and act like a national socialist perty? Bullying and intimadation are par for the course for non-roman catholics in Ireland. Why do you think that the Protestant percentage of population fell from 25% of teh population in 1920 to less than 5% today? God help the blacks and any other group that differs from the 'Irish norm'.

• WoundedKnee | Jul 14, 2012, 02:16 PM EDT

  Redhand... I think bullying is often the act of the frustrated, people who feel powerless but want to find someone else who is even more powerless. In this case, the statistics show that of all age groups in Ireland, it is the young who are most vehemently opposed to Mass Immigration. Can you blame them? The young, more particulary the working class youth, are constantly being told that they are worthless, that they are not equipped to take a job in their own country, that there's 50 well trained and docile foreigners ready to take any job they may go for. It would be better if the young working class took it out on their own ruling class, the ones who implemented Mass Immigration. Unfortunately, they don't, but it's perfectly predictable that the young will feel bitter. Your invocation of hundreds of years of colonial rule is just so much irrelevant nonsense and shows how out of touch you are with the reality facing young Irish people, discriminated against in their own homeland.

• redhand32 | Jul 14, 2012, 11:45 AM EDT

  What is so sad about racial bullying is that Ireland for centuries has been ground zero for colonial, institutional bullying for centuries at the hands of English Protestant masters. If anything, bullying should be anathema to the Irish people with zero tolerance for those miscreants who are painfully ignorant or indifferent to their nation's history.

• dingle999 | Jul 14, 2012, 04:59 AM EDT

  How does the Vatican rule Ireland?

• Portia777 | Jul 13, 2012, 02:37 PM EDT

  Ireland is no longer sovereign. She has no King/Queen. She is under foreign rule as ever. Roman rule since 1172 with the assistance of the British. We still use Roman/British law. Our Barristers etc swear allegiance to the BAR London Temple city, who in turn serve Rome/Pope. We are under EU law with Germany and Vatican readying for the final take over as you all argue on here-divide and rule is working well on this article.

• Esmeralda | Jul 13, 2012, 02:35 PM EDT

  Yes, bullying can happen to any child, but racist bullying happens only to minorities. Can't really follow the logic trying to reduce racist bullying as "normal bullying", which does not make it easier to deal with. Worst of all are the teachers who turn a blind eye to racist slurs, and sometimes even add to the student of a minority background discomfort or ackwardness. Example: Teacher reads out claas list, but doesn't attemp to pronounce foreign name anyway remotedly to its original. Imagine to go through primary or secondary having that wierd name that noone can pronounce. The Educate Together school model and its teachers at least try to pronounce ALL students name as close as possible to the original. Hopefully with so many Irish emigrating and having more contact with other cultures they can come back more used to foreign names and cultures.

• Curitiba | Jul 13, 2012, 02:27 PM EDT

  No, Kinvara7, Tibet for the Tibetans is not just about independence for the "region" (actually a nation occupied by China), it's about their opposition to the mass immigration of Han Chinese into Tibet, which threatens to obliterate their culture. The exact same thing is happening in Xingjiang to the Uighur people. I can't imagine that these two nations would struggle for independence from their oppressive neighbour, only to throw open the doors to unlimited immigration from China and India, say.

• Portia777 | Jul 13, 2012, 02:25 PM EDT

  This is all a deliberate program designed to cause racial friction, so the powers that be can take more of your freedoms away

• ciaradexy | Jul 13, 2012, 11:57 AM EDT

  Tim, give over your whining. If youre anti-immigration then set up an anti-immigration party instead of moaning about it to a bunch of Americans who arent affected by anything that happens in Ireland. Seriously, grow up.

• kinvara7 | Jul 13, 2012, 10:53 AM EDT

  @Reginald: Please explain why I am 'anti-white'? Furthermore, are you against freedom?

• kinvara7 | Jul 13, 2012, 10:50 AM EDT

  @Reginald: Prove there is an ‘intent to destroy’ in whole or in part the Irish. If you are focusing on section (c) ‘Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part’, understand this cannot be understood in isolation, the provisions that it accompanies should be looked at to understand its intent, those provisions are: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. Please set out the ‘conditions of life’ that have been ‘deliberately inflicted’ which are designed to bring about the destruction of the Irish? Furthermore, white does not equal Irish.

• kinvara7 | Jul 13, 2012, 08:34 AM EDT

  @Schon: Would you care to explain Ireland's history of national socialism?

• kinvara7 | Jul 13, 2012, 08:20 AM EDT

  @Tim (the unwise): You question why it is ok to say things like ‘Tibet for Tibetans’ and not ‘Ireland for white Irish people’. To begin with, can you not see that these are different statements? A person saying ‘Tibet for Tibetans’ is seeking independence for that region; a person saying ‘Ireland for white Irish people’ is a bigot who doesn’t understand that skin colour has nothing to do with being Irish. As for the rest of your message… I think you need to get out more -or are you too afraid of all the ‘non-white’ women throwing themselves at you? I doubt it somehow. Deireadh seachtaine deas agat!

• seanomelb | Jul 13, 2012, 03:25 AM EDT

  Schon just keep walking down the yellow brick road you're not in tune with common sense.

• dingle999 | Jul 12, 2012, 11:25 PM EDT

  "We all know Ireland's history when it comes to bigotry and national socialism." _________ If you referring to religious bigotry.. sadly Northern Ireland takes the cake for that one.. or maybe you are talking about Limerick and the Jewish population ? In relation to 'national socialism' are you talking about Mosely, the upper classes in England ? _________ "We're sure to have the nazi Sinn Fein on the streets once they sort out the Orange Order and the proddies in the North." The war is over mate... Indeed there are still after effects of the conflict but hopefully in time they too will disappear

• Schon | Jul 12, 2012, 10:18 PM EDT

  seanomelb, dear me, but do I detect a hint of hypocrisy here? Are you a racist wanting the Brits out of the North? Also your observation that Ireland is an 'independent state' belies the fact that the movement of peoples is legislated in Brussels (and sometimes Strasbourg). We all know Ireland's history when it comes to bigotry and national socialism. We're sure to have the nazi Sinn Fein on the streets once they sort out the Orange Order and the proddies in the North.

• dingle999 | Jul 12, 2012, 08:27 PM EDT

  Xenophobia can manifest itself in many ways involving the relations and perceptions of an ingroup towards an outgroup, including a fear of losing identity, suspicion of its activities, aggression, and desire to eliminate its presence to secure a presumed purity. Xenophobia can also be exhibited in the form of an "uncritical exaltation of another culture" in which a culture is ascribed "an unreal, stereotyped and exotic quality".

• dingle999 | Jul 12, 2012, 08:25 PM EDT

  "I think the people here throwing Ireland into some sort of multicultural trash bin are not Irish at all. " onthetocks you are English saying this garbage ? You live yourself in a mulitcultural country !! You Sir are the Troll

• dingle999 | Jul 12, 2012, 08:19 PM EDT

  ". But the important thing is that American immigration policy is made in America, but Irish immigration policy is not made in Ireland, it's made in Warsaw and Kinshasha." Lol you sanctimonious Yank... Go down to Texas the issue of emigration is a very thorny/divisive issue.... .. Hey look at your President some nutters think he is a foreigner . But of course you knew this already after all you are an American...

• seanomelb | Jul 12, 2012, 06:41 PM EDT

  Tim the unwise using his puerile argument,just to put you straight Ireland is an independent state Palestine/Tibet are not. I doubt if you can differentiate between an apple and a pear.But you sure know your colours you racist bigot.Go wear a swastika you fool.

• ciaradexy | Jul 12, 2012, 04:39 PM EDT

  onthetocks, to the Irish, you are English just like these Americans are yanks. Nothing that happens in Ireland affects you. George, Ireland is in the EU and immigration policies are the same for each country. Again, we do not have an anti-immigration party so until we do, then this is how it is.

• WoundedKnee | Jul 12, 2012, 04:23 PM EDT

  dingle, if you want to discuss American policy, you're on the wrong site. What a dope you are. But since you asked me, I'll reply to your questions. Of course Irish and other illegal aliens should be removed from the US, what a stupid question on your part. As to your second question, it's prettyy mjuch just as stupid. Of course peoplpe should be permitted--and this includes Irish--to emigrate to the US. Just like people were always permitted to immigrate to Ireland (you're probably too ignorant to know this, but there has always been immigration into Ireland). American (legal) immigration policy is regulated and planned. There is a range of categories which permits people to come and live here. There are different visas, H, J etc., many of them responding to needs of the American economy. I am no expert on the different visa options, I don't have to be, and no American would claim that the system is perfect. But the important thing is that American immigration policy is made in America, but Irish immigration policy is not made in Ireland, it's made in Warsaw and Kinshasha.

• onthetocks | Jul 12, 2012, 04:16 PM EDT

  No I happen to live in England but my stock came from Ireland. I just happened across this thread. What happens in Ireland does matter to me and it will affect me. Ireland and the UK are in the EU, we are intimately connected. It effects me emotionally as it should any person who cherishes their heritage. It should affect Irish Americans emotionally. It does not matter if a person is on the moon, their ancestral homeland is not a replaceable entity. I am shocked people here are this way. For God sake. I can almost reach out and touch my heritage, it is very real to me. I think the people here throwing Ireland into some sort of multicultural trash bin are not Irish at all. Some sort of Troll. It is incredible.

• ciaradexy | Jul 12, 2012, 04:11 PM EDT

  Dingle, the irish can emigrate to the US but only if they are related to george.

• dingle999 | Jul 12, 2012, 03:56 PM EDT

  rogertucker89 you are watching too much Star Trek .. i.e Borg - "assimilation"

• dingle999 | Jul 12, 2012, 03:53 PM EDT

  WoundedKnee why will you not talk about American Emigration policy ? i.e should Irish illegals be deported.. ? should the Irish be allowed to emigrate to America to work?

• ciaradexy | Jul 12, 2012, 03:47 PM EDT

  Ancavker, You'll remember that Ireland was ruled by England for 800 years and the culture was nearly decimated. So whats your suggestion to cancel those 800 years out? 20% of the Irish population is foreign born. Thats not mass immigration. There are 70,000 migrants on welfare here. You live in the US. You can legally move from state to state, well so can Europeans. Are you taking a job from an American there? The head pathologist where I work is Polish, SpR is from Northern Sudan, occupational therapist is from Lithuania, head of obstetrics is American, head biochemist is from Bangladesh, so you see, we have plenty of migrants who work hard and pay massive taxes to this state. YOU ARE AN IMMIGRANT!!! Stop being a hypocrite! There are no anti-immigration parties and we cannot stop immigration while Irish people are emigrating, the majority through choice! Roger, if you want to move to Africa or Asia, then move! South Africa is majority white. There are white people ruining oil companies and other mining companies all over Africa. Have you ever been to any Asian country? There are white people there too! Nothing is stopping you moving to any of these countries! Wounded, nice to see you have finally admitted that you are George Dillon. You are a yank. My stepmam speaks Italian but shes not Italian. can you speak any of your countries native tongues? You will always be a Yank in Ireland and to the irish. By the way, if youre so 'Irish', why arent you here now, impressing us with your 'Oirishness'? Did another migrant take your job here? Is that why you left? Youre not affected by anything that happens on this little island so seriously, focus on your own mess of a country. ''Foreign thugs preying on irish citizens', what, like those Americans who raped and murdered that Irish girl in Japan? Most Americans dont even have a passport so no wonder you go nowhere.

• WoundedKnee | Jul 12, 2012, 03:39 PM EDT

  ancavker: Unfortunately the Irish universities and economic thinktanks are too much under the thumb of the bosses to make an effort to do a cogent cost/benefit study of Mass Immigration.

• ancavker | Jul 12, 2012, 03:05 PM EDT

  ciara: Away form all the arguments back and forth. The Irish economy is in a shambles, the country simply cannot afford to absorb immigrants on a massive scale, regardless of where they come from.

• rogertucker89 | Jul 12, 2012, 03:01 PM EDT

  Dingle,you STILL have not dealt with: Africa for the Africans,Asia for the Asians,white countries for EVERYBODY! Mass immigration and "assimilation" imposed on ALL white countries and ONLY white countries. It is genocide according to international law. Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white.

• ancavker | Jul 12, 2012, 03:01 PM EDT

  dingle999: Many Irish today are not growing up in an Irish culture, but with some hybrid of the worst of American and English popular culture. The Irish even after 80 odd years of independence still view the world through the lens of London, if it is English or trashy American it is better.

• dingle999 | Jul 12, 2012, 02:09 PM EDT

  WoundedKnee Every country in Europe and let us not forget America has not got the perfect emigration policy.. "lets foreign thugs and criminals in to prey on Irish citizens?" Xenophobia at its worst... you probably say the same thing about Mexicans living in your country

• WoundedKnee | Jul 12, 2012, 02:00 PM EDT

  I note that the man suspected of mugging an 86-year-old woman in Kilkenny--the lady is now fighting for her life in hospital--is wanted by Polish police. What kind of useless immigration system lets foreign thugs and criminals in to prey on Irish citizens? One inmate in three in Irish prisons is a foreign migrant, and still the worthless Irish "government" won't tighten up its immigration practices. Irish is crawling with foreign criminals, but the imbeciles in the Irish ruling class and government could care less.

• dingle999 | Jul 12, 2012, 01:27 PM EDT

  WoundedKnee your allegiance is to America not Ireland... Big debate about this when Dana (Rosemary Brown) went up for the Irish Presidency

• dingle999 | Jul 12, 2012, 01:24 PM EDT

  at least some Republicans in America are for emigration "Some Republicans grasp that immigration is a boon to at least some state economies."

• dingle999 | Jul 12, 2012, 01:20 PM EDT

  "that I am an Irish citizen, hence just as Irish as you" Totally incorrect just because you had a Irish grandfather does not make you Irish... You did not grow up in in Ireland.. your parents are not Irish... You do not live in Ireland.. you live in a foreign country i.e The USA - you are an AMERICAN . Hell there are Arabs who have Irish passports does that make them Irish ? Hmm no . In essence you born into a foreign culture not an Irish culture.. Pure and simple... And your arguement that you are more Irish than the Irish themselves is pathetic...... BTw are you against the Irish emigrating to America ?

• WoundedKnee | Jul 12, 2012, 01:01 PM EDT

  ciara: I have dealt with your stupid points over and over again. You're becoming tiresome (well, actually you always were). The fact that Irish people emigrated to the US, Argentina, Australia or wherever in the 19th century is quite irrelevant to the formulation of a smart and prudent Irish immigration policy in the 21st century. In fact, yours is the argument of an imbecile. If we were to go by your "logic", Ireland should only admit migrants from countries to which Irish people emigrated. Places like Latvia, Burundi, Mauritius etc. should in your loony logic be precluded from sending migrants to Ireland since those countries never hosted any emigrants from there. The reality, as anyone who visits Ireland will see, is that the country is overrun by people from places to which Irish people never migrated-Poland, Latvia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Russia etc. etc. As to your constant yelps that I am not Irish, I can confirm, and I have said this on this site previously, that I am an Irish citizen, hence just as Irish as you. In fact I am more Irish than you, since I undoubtedly know far more of the language, literature, history and culture of Ireland than you do. I asked you earlier to give me a few ways in which Mass Immigration has benefited Ireland, or tell me in what respect the Irish were defective or deficient, so as to merit being replaced in their own homeland. You weren't able to do so, so shut up, you racist fool.

• dingle999 | Jul 12, 2012, 12:25 PM EDT

  These other people are voicing genuine concern about their people and culture being overrun. onthetocks - Those people are foreigners .. I am Irish and live in Ireland...

• dingle999 | Jul 12, 2012, 12:22 PM EDT

  esatdigiwank | went to UCD and Maynooth. Pray tell what university do you go to ?

• ciaradexy | Jul 12, 2012, 12:19 PM EDT

  George, so when the Irish are polled, 70% of us oppose mass emigration? Polls? Youre talking about polls again. No one has started up an anti-immigration party so if there was such a problem with it and if people were as angry about it as you seem to think we are, then someone whould have done something about it. But you see, us Irish have travelled the world and worked all over the place. We have been accepted into nearly every nation on earth so why the heck would we become hypocrites and shut the doors on those who want to come here when other countries boarders are open to us?

• dingle999 | Jul 12, 2012, 12:18 PM EDT

  onthetocks what happens in Ireland does not affect you... Yes or NO

• ciaradexy | Jul 12, 2012, 12:13 PM EDT

  onthetocks, Youre American, not Irish. Youre the result of emigration yet you mock migrants to my country? What is it with American hypocrites? What happens in Ireland is none of your business or concern.

• ancavker | Jul 12, 2012, 11:15 AM EDT

  Nothing new here. My wife who went back to Ireland when she was 6 with her family, was bullied constantly for some years because she was a Yank. It too quite some time before it stopped.

• onthetocks | Jul 12, 2012, 10:27 AM EDT

  What's with this dingle999? He's spamming the thread with abuse about people he has never met. These other people are voicing genuine concern about their people and culture being overrun. I thought this forum was for genuine people who cared and were proud of being of Irish ancestry. Both side of my family have roots in Ireland, my kids have it on both sides. So anyone who speaks up for their people is somehow KKK? What sort of person is this dingle999? Probably some sort of troll. Makes me sick, why don't you clear off, you are anti-Irish and anti-White.

• esatdigiwank | Jul 12, 2012, 09:05 AM EDT

  Dangleberry999: Ni raíbh tusa in Ollscoíl riamh! Déanann tu argoínt seafoídeach, amaideach, agus e in aisce. Taímid ag magadh fut. Dún do bheal, agus go tápa ). Taímid ag eirí brean díot agus do seafoíd fean, Racist.

• dingle999 | Jul 12, 2012, 08:57 AM EDT

  WoundedKnee you will not talk about the demographic changes in America...? :))

• WoundedKnee | Jul 12, 2012, 08:54 AM EDT

  dingle: "I saw more white people i.e. American tourists than migrants". WHITE people! I've asked you before, please refain from using this forum to push your racist agenda. And don't be such an idiot, countless foreign settlers in Ireland (and they are countless!) are white, while some Irish people are not. Racist fool.

• dingle999 | Jul 12, 2012, 08:44 AM EDT

  Barney the Dinosaur ? Is he a member of your KKK group as well ? I never spent time living in Dublin ?.. wow I went to school and university there.. There is nothing constructive about racism .. just admit it you are an Aryan Pure White supporter

• esatdigiwank | Jul 12, 2012, 08:31 AM EDT

  Dingle, you've made an exhibition of yourself, ha ha. So you're bringing God into the fray now..Hilarious. Is this meant to be your trump card? Tell me, do you believe in Barney the Dinosaur also? You are but an annoying troll who is only out to Spoil this constructive discourse. You have nothing valid to add to this and, you have never spent time living in the Capital. Zip it please. >>>I will look this speech up. Dangleberry999 simply will not.

• dingle999 | Jul 12, 2012, 08:26 AM EDT

  "Why was I not consulted about the plan to settle my country with foreigners?" So you dont young Irish emigrating to your own country ?

• dingle999 | Jul 12, 2012, 08:23 AM EDT

  WoundedKnee you are left wing ?.. that is a laugh. I bet you never voted Democrat in your life "When an Irish person can walk down the central street of her capital city and find herself outnumbered four or five to one by foreign migrants she has every right to say" Yankee why are you so concerned about the Irish ? Odd two weeks ago I was in Dublin and I saw more white people i.e. American tourists than migrants .. Good thing about the majority of American tourists they do not hold the same views as you... Why dont you talk about the demographic changes in your own country... ?

• WoundedKnee | Jul 12, 2012, 08:02 AM EDT

  esatdigi-- "What the corporations want, they get". That's it, in a nutshell. I have preached for years that Mass Immigration is not a left-wing project, if it were I'd support it. Mass Immigration is in fact the project of international globalizers (look up the speech by Irish Fat Cat Grand Globalizer Peter Sutherland a few weeks back in which he called for national cultures to be eradicated). They are abetted in this by the local capitalist class, who of course love to have an unending supply of cheap labor. Why have to train a gal from Darndale in Dublin to do a job when you can have your choice of 50 docile Poles and Latvians? As a leftist I condemn racists who bring in questions of skin color to a discussion of Mass Immigration. It's not a question of "toleration", despite the stupid claim by dingle. Irish people have every right to an opinion about the demographic changes visited on their country in the past decade or so. When an Irish person can walk down the central street of her capital city and find herself outnumbered four or five to one by foreign migrants she has every right to say "What's going on? Why was I not consulted about the plan to settle my country with foreigners?" The Irish in the Seventeenth Century were not given a voice to accept or reject the Plantations. Almost four centuries later, their descendents are treated just the same.

• dingle999 | Jul 12, 2012, 07:57 AM EDT

  esatdigiwank / WoundedKnee / Tim_Wise Have you guys ever met ? If not meet up and maybe the three of you can be blessed by the Grand Cyclops of the KKK..oops remember the KKK does not like Catholics

• dingle999 | Jul 12, 2012, 07:54 AM EDT

  esatdigiwank (Good nick for you) You are simply a tosser.. Do you believe in God ? Does God give a f** when you die if you are black, white, asian .. Hmm no Have you check your genealogy ,,,there might be some mutil race heritage there.. You can never tell. Shock horror !

• esatdigiwank | Jul 12, 2012, 06:37 AM EDT

  "Perhaps you can nominate just ONE non White country you think needs to be flooded with other races (in the name of so called diversity) that should "blend" itself out of existence over time". Is the island of Mauritius in the Indian Ocean not a case in point? Mauritians are an amalgam of peoples. Do original Mauritian inhabitants exist? Look it up readers. Can Ireland someday be comparable to the Mauritius experience?>>>To add to my point below before I forget, 1 out of 7 of school pupils in Ire. are of non-Irish origin. That for me is very telling. Dingle999's missives read like someone who has not lived in Dublin in recent times..

• esatdigiwank | Jul 12, 2012, 06:21 AM EDT

  It would appear to me that Tim_Wise, WK (have not read Packoftwenty yet) are winning this debate and justifiably so. They are able to back up their common opinion with h a r d facts I doubt can be refuted. Dingle999 is more reactionary And refuses to be informed, denies trends! I too witness the onslaught of instigated Mass Third World Immigration here (another north european country, but further down the path than Ireland). What the corporations want , they get.

• dingle999 | Jul 12, 2012, 05:01 AM EDT

  WoundedKnee like Tim_Wise / Packoftwenty you are playing the 'race card' i.e. Irish people who believe in a tolerant society are racists !! You are a sad Yankee fool.. probably admires Sarah Palin / supported the war in Iraq / against Obamacare / probably walks across the street when he sees an Afro Ameircan .. You sir have problems and thanks be to God you DO NOT live in my country

• WoundedKnee | Jul 12, 2012, 02:47 AM EDT

  Posters such as dingle sadly exemplify the racist rump that exists in Ireland. On the bright side, all surveys show that racists like dingle are in a fairly small minority. Any time the Irish are polled, a large majority (70 %) express opposition to their replacement by foreign settlers and migrants. On the only occasion when there was a full plebiscite on a similar topic, they voted four to one to thwart the schemes of foreign mothers who arrived in Ireland specifically in order to have an Irish-born baby, thereby gaining Irish citizenship and wide European access. So stop trying to fool less informed readers, dingle, your racism is not the majority way in Ireland.

• aloistmartin | Jul 11, 2012, 08:38 PM EDT

  I. Believe The Irish have a Right, to Protest the Exploitation of Cheap Immigrant Revenue, by the Bi-Partisan Bourgeoisie ! But I. do believe Our Lord (The Perfect Society, Whatever) would have a seat for everyone at his Table ! Animosity towards Ethnic Minorities as Chicanery for Sectarian Animosity is another folly. Personally I. feel more like a Illustrious Page from The Book of Kells, than a Chance driven Ape;(Black Celt) But that`s another Story. Let us lead by example: Intelligence, Beauty, Compassion,and Patriotism !

• seanomelb | Jul 11, 2012, 08:04 PM EDT

  Packoftwenty you/re a sad case like your alter ego Rogert I live along side Chinese and Turkish neighbours and fine people they are.You and your pal will have to leave the realms of your Neanderthal pass and join the 21st. century.You can do it in slow steps and start with the 19th.century and gradually move up.A quick tip you can walk upright that will help.You might invite Tim_unwise to your new club now there's a throwback if ever I heard one.

• seanomelb | Jul 11, 2012, 07:56 PM EDT

  Packoftwenty I chose to live where I am,my neighbour on one side is Chinese and on the other side they are great neighbors and better than some whites I've live aside.When you and Rogert walk upright and realise that's why you have scrape marks on the back of your hands you may be able to make an informed decision instead of appealing to your Neanderthal instincts.

• dingle999 | Jul 11, 2012, 07:52 PM EDT

  Tim_Wise are you an American ? If so STFU and go out on your scooter in a white robe

• dingle999 | Jul 11, 2012, 06:40 PM EDT

  WoundedKnee I lived in Ireland for 47 years.. (damm I am old) you are an American from Georgia who knows NOTHING about my country.. just because you and the other Tea Baggers (Tea Party) are paranoid about the demographic changes in America.. i.e whites will be a minority soon .. does not mean we IRISH living in Ireland have the same paranoid fixations. Get a life .. live the so called American Dream and stop spreading lies about the so called 'death of the Irish' You sir are nothing more than a racist and most Irish people would be appalled with your views

• WoundedKnee | Jul 11, 2012, 05:20 PM EDT

  dingle--Looks like you don't keep up. Check out the demographics. Check out the rate of Immigration of Foreigners and the rate of Emigration of Irish. Check out the birth statistics. Check out the age profile--most foreign settlers are right in the child-producing years. In fact almost one in three persons in Ireland aged between 25-44 is foreign-born. Check out the maternal nationality statistics. Listen to what the President of Dublin University predicted a couple years back--and he was a supporter of Mass Immigration. And if you can't deal with statistics, go take a walk down Dublin's O'Connell Street some time. You'll see the future for the whole country, because there are four or five foreigners for every Irish person at any time in that street. Where do you spend your time--in the pub? Or maybe you're studying for your Leaving Exam?

• dinarobin | Jul 11, 2012, 04:53 PM EDT

  eiriamach - tell us why YOU aren't moving to Africa, TOMORROW There's no need for eiriamacj to move, so many other Irish are doing it , yet again. Of course, as we all know, they are the right kind of migrant. Other posters keep referring to 'white' lands/countries - I presume they are not talking about anywhere outside of Europe, as by their own logic, nowhere else is.

• dingle999 | Jul 11, 2012, 04:46 PM EDT

  WoundedKnee - Yankee you are writing the rubbish... Where did you get "and at current rates the ethnic Irish will be in a minority in their own country in just a couple decades "

• WoundedKnee | Jul 11, 2012, 02:38 PM EDT

  What part of my post did you not understand, dingle999? Is there some way I can spell it more simply for you? And what's "the breitbart website"? You think whatever nonsense you're involved in is recognized throughout the world?

• dingle999 | Jul 11, 2012, 02:33 PM EDT

  "There simply are far too many, the highest in Europe if not the world, and at current rates the ethnic Irish will be in a minority in their own country in just a couple decades." Where did you that from .. The breitbart website ?

• WoundedKnee | Jul 11, 2012, 12:49 PM EDT

  As a progressive and an anti-racist, it grieves me to see debate on Mass Immigration conflated with white/black antagonisms. The problem in Ireland is not color of skin of the migrants and settlers, it's their numbers. There simply are far too many, the highest in Europe if not the world, and at current rates the ethnic Irish will be in a minority in their own country in just a couple decades. But it's very predictable that a policy which has no democratic mandate --the Irish were never given an opportunity to vote on opening up their country to unlimited settlement by foreigners--will engender bitterness, resentment and racism. Mass Immigration is the project of the Irish ruling class, and the Irish working class or lower class are the big losers. The fact is that the Irish intellectual class, insofar as one exists, has utterly failed to think about the countless collateral effects of Mass Immigration. For example, the youths who behaved badly at that concert in the Phoenix Park--how many of them are working-class kids who are told by society that they are worthless, that employers can easily hire a smarter & better-educated Pole or Russian to do any job they might hope to get? What hope is Irish society giving them? Even if the Irish economy generated 100,000 new jobs, the bulk of them would be given to foreign migrants. The result, as I have pointed out here before, is that, while the majority of the Irish people (70%) express opposition to Mass Immigration when polled, the age group most tolerant of Mass Immigration are the over 60s, and those who most vehemently opposed to Mass Immigration are the under 25s.

• eiriamach | Jul 11, 2012, 10:19 AM EDT

  Dingle999 asks "packoftwenty ... are you a Catholic? Your church would be appalled with what you are saying." Dingle999, I've been wondering why the ultra-orthodox defenders of Catholicism swarm like flies on IC when the issue is insurance to cover contraceptives, or freedom from discrimination for LGBTs, or sex abuse of children or women by church officials, BUT when racists are piling vileness into IC com boxes, those staunch Catholics are nowhere to be seen. What a limited sense they seem to have of the work of God! They might do some good with their attack-mode comments here, but they seem to prefer attacking the IC writers who tell the truth about history and politics. Can anyone explain it? To packoftwenty's question, I live in a minority-white community; I attend a church where whites are in the minority except on Easter Sunday (that tells you who the once-a-year churchgoers are!), a church that's rumored to be the most progressive in the USA. When I weary of dealing with racists and other narrow-minded people like you, I have that community to draw on for strength. So I'm ready for the day when whites will be a minority in the USA, the country founded as a haven for refugees and immigrants, on the day when it finally lives up to its national creed. By then, people like rogertuckr, packotwenty, and Michael McGrath will have boarded their raft and set themselves adrift somewhere on the Sargasso Sea, where they can be as "separatist" as they wish, stuck with only each other for the remainder of their days.

• ciaradexy | Jul 11, 2012, 07:21 AM EDT

  IrishAndProud, the Irish integrated in Australia, New Zealand, Canada and the US. Why do you think migrants cant do the same here?

• ciaradexy | Jul 11, 2012, 07:16 AM EDT

  Dingle999, best of luck getting these cretins to have a constructive debate or having them address the points you raise. They are uneducated and incapable.

• ciaradexy | Jul 11, 2012, 07:14 AM EDT

  I see the white power muppets are out in force today! No one is stopping white people from having kids so whats your issue? There are plenty of white people in Africa. Look at South Africa! There are plenty of white people working in health and education in Africa. There are lots of black people working in Ireland so whats the problem? 'Packof twenty', if you have such an issue with it, stop hiding your identity and get out there, form an anti migration political party and stop whining about it on sites like this which is 99% Americans who are the result of migration into a country where their forefathers murdered the natives. We are not being murdered in Ireland. We can reproduce,we are not being told we cant. Its called Free will. Too many on here whining about migrants in Ireland. Most arent even irish who are whinging by the Irish who are whinging would rather moan anonymously on this site than make a stand for what they believe in. Well done lads. Inspirational.

• dingle999 | Jul 11, 2012, 06:01 AM EDT

  "replacing the Irish people in our own country" Lol this is funny ..McGrath go out and procreate .. Are you fertile ? Become a White man sex machine...

• dingle999 | Jul 11, 2012, 05:54 AM EDT

  "We'd rather watch our country being invaded by millions of parasitic third worlders" millions??? = lie You are probably on the Dole and boozing in your local pub when typing this rubbish.. You probably have a Junior Cert education as well

• dingle999 | Jul 11, 2012, 05:47 AM EDT

  packoftwenty Out of interest are you a Catholic ? Your church would be appalled with what you are saying.... You probably dislike Jews etc What with the rubbish "stopping even ONE Irish person from reproducing" you sound like a sexually frustrated man who needs Viagra.. Go out man and get a WHITE sex doll and get some satisfaction

• packoftwenty | Jul 11, 2012, 04:12 AM EDT

  So, when will the 'pro diversity' idiots here be happy? When whites are only 50% of the population of Ireland? Or maybe only 10% of the population? Would that make you happy? Would that make us 'non-racist' enough for you? It's blatant GENOCIDE, nothing else. Article 2 of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide from 1948 defines genocide as any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. Let me repeat item C again: (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; IN WHOLE OR IN PART. That means if you are deliberately stopping even ONE Irish person from reproducing, or being LESS LIKELY to reproduce, you are committing GENOCIDE... Anything to say, Lefties?

• packoftwenty | Jul 11, 2012, 04:07 AM EDT

  eiriamach - tell us why YOU aren't moving to Africa, TOMORROW. Go on, we'd love to hear your excuses. Who gave YOU the right to FORCE every other white person in your country to have to participate in your insane 'open borders' experiment? If white people wanted to live in third world countries, we'd MOVE there, wouldn't we... So why aren't YOU moving tomorrow? Third world people = third world country. We won't forget who you are, when we finally get our countries back - and you'll be FORCED to live in all the 'diversity' you can handle, by being deported to AFRICA... LOL. You idiot.

• packoftwenty | Jul 11, 2012, 04:04 AM EDT

  dingle999 said "You sir are nothing more than a racist and your comments give the impression that the Irish people are a bigot racist people." Oh no! Not "racist"! Don't call us that word! We'd rather watch our country being invaded by millions of parasitic third worlders, and see it totally destroyed, than be called "racist"! Why aren't YOU moving to Africa, dingle999? Since 'diversity' is so wonderful, I wonder why YOU aren't moving to somewhere where YOU can immediately become a tiny (and hated) minority... Idiot. Go on, try harder.

• packoftwenty | Jul 11, 2012, 03:59 AM EDT

  seanomelb - can you tell us all why you aren't moving to AFRICA tomorrow, since being a white minority in a third world country is such a good thing, according to you? Who made YOU my master? Who gave YOU the right to decide who I have to live with? You're a 'useful idiot', aren't you...

• packoftwenty | Jul 11, 2012, 03:58 AM EDT

  Perhaps the whites on here who are in favour of 'multiculturalism' can explain to the rest of us (the MAJORITY of whites, by the way, who don't agree with you), why you aren't moving to AFRICA tomorrow, since apparently being a white minority in a third world country is so wonderful? Just to explain it to you nice and simply: the people who are flooding into white countries every year are coming from WORSE countries. They aren't masochists, they are here 'for a better life' - but they are incapable of MAKING that 'better life' in their OWN countries - I wonder why... So apparently WE have to GIVE them OUR countries instead, give up our racial and national identity, and suddenly ANYBODY can be 'Irish' or 'British', 'French' or 'German', etc. But it's ONLY white countries it's happening to. None of you insane white liberals can explain that, can you? Since you support the bankers' desire to totally destroy our countries, I'm sure you'll be happy to publicly state, with your names, that you will NEVER want to live in an all white country. That way, when whites eventually SEPARATE from non-whites (again), we will be able to laugh in your faces when you desperately try to weasel your way back into OUR safe countries again. Tough luck - you'll be forced to live as five percent of the population, in a third world hellhole. Idiots.

• rogertucker89 | Jul 11, 2012, 01:08 AM EDT

  Africa for the Africans,Asia for the Asians,white countries for EVERYBODY! Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries. The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them. Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites. What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries? How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem? And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this? But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews. They say they are anti-racist.What they are is anti-white. Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white.

• seanomelb | Jul 11, 2012, 12:56 AM EDT

  Rogert and IAP a couple of white warriors living in some cave protecting their paranoia from common sense. Hey Dumbo's I'm also white and I don't need your racist mumblings. Some people have a siege mentality in their corrupted genes.

• rogertucker89 | Jul 11, 2012, 12:54 AM EDT

  Africa for the Africans,Asia for the Asians,white countries for EVERYBODY! Mass immigration and "assimilation" imposed on ALL white countries and ONLY white countries. It is genocide according to international law. Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white.

• MichaelMcGrath | Jul 11, 2012, 12:28 AM EDT

  TO HELL WITH THIS JUNK REPUBLIC! What a sham, these citizen ceremonies , all now citzens of the failed junk republic:-) Shatter boasts of all the organisation as if it's some kind of an achievement? It's no achievement at all, it's a surrender by Ireland in an exercise of futile bureaucracy, dishing out bits of paper that are meaningless , as meaningless as the Junk Republic with no sovereignty is:-) But it's dangerous as it's an official start in replacing the Irish people in our own country, the Junk Republic has given its final sanction to that decision now to force the Irish people out and replace us. It's also anti-democratic in that the Irish people never voted for this farce, and were never asked to, in fact conspiracy was entered into by all the major politiccal parties not to offer the Irish people any immigration policy at all over the past decade since we have suffered continuous mass immigration and economic ruination. If anything the Irish voted in spirit against it by four to one majority in the citizenship referendum of 2004. God Save Ireland, but not this, not this Junk Republic, Never:-)

• Black Celt | Jul 11, 2012, 12:19 AM EDT

  Why did the White Supremacist pose with the name Tim Wise in this comments section and say africa for africans. Tim Wise is Actually a well known lecturer, who speaks out and fights racism, white nationalism,white supremacy. He has a lectur on youtube that you can look up "Tim Wise-White Privelage". It just shows the length White Supremacist will go to be racist. posing with the name of a well known lecturer "Tim Wise" to spout Racist Views. The way they speak and their views churn out maniacs like Anders Breivik Who went on murderous rampage in Norway, And just across the atlantic, in the News, there is the case of the Disgruntled Racist Neo-Nazi/White supremacist JTready(Jason Todd). JTready went on a rampage just like breivik who held the exact same delusional supremacist views of wanting to protect the country from color so he hoarded weapon, chemicals, bombs to patrol the border(insane). Jason Todd (JTready) had a hispanic Girlfriend which goes against everything delusional White Nationalist believe. This drove him insane his views and gang of white nationalist peers say white only, yet he is doing the opposite. This made him snap, and he murdered his baby, wife and family in cold blood. JTready (Jason Todd) was nothing more than a fat butterball, overweight, overall wearin, tobacco chewin racist, who saw one to many war movies, and had a Gun/body armor fetish. WHen he killed his family, he dressed up in his"Border patrol" armor and killed his entire family. But hey thats the insanity of White nationalism. They think an all white country will be so pure, fee of crime, when you have people like breivik, JTready, and the leauges of white pedophiles who reign terror on the young. Good luck with that LMA

• dingle999 | Jul 10, 2012, 11:41 PM EDT

  Rogertuck Has their been genocide of whites in the USA ? Hmm no . Unlike you I am Irish and white..

• rogertucker89 | Jul 10, 2012, 11:35 PM EDT

  @dingle Tell it to the white children you`re targeting for global genocide you sick anti-white fool.

• dingle999 | Jul 10, 2012, 11:24 PM EDT

  rogertucker89 - I take it you are English / American ? . There are some good website where you can buy white robes at a reduce price

• rogertucker89 | Jul 10, 2012, 11:13 PM EDT

  It`s silly for someone to say they`re not anti-white and not pushing geNOcide when they support the global elimination of whites via mass immigration and "assimilation" imposed on EVERY white country,and ONLY white countries. You can`t hide from responsibility anymore anti-whites, Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

• dingle999 | Jul 10, 2012, 10:44 PM EDT

  " blacks shouldn't be in white cultures, and vice versa... I oppose Africans in Ireland. Don't take any more non-whites into Ireland, " Good God what planet are you from ? I take it you consider President Obama a half black African who should be deported back to Africa... You sir are nothing more than a racist and your comments give the impression that the Irish people are a bigot racist people. Indeed we are not. The Irish who emigrated to America after the Famine faced racial prejudice ... of course it is easy to type drivel/rubbish anonymously .. you are probably a beacon in your community in real life i.e. go to church every Sunday..Last point I suppose the Catholic Church etc have no right to be in Africa (after all the Pope is a White man)

• rogertucker89 | Jul 10, 2012, 10:27 PM EDT

  @eiriamach You did not dispute: "Genocide is genocide,it makes no difference if it is done with bullets and mustard gas,or mass immigration and social engineering". So you have no defense from the charge of committing genocide against us whites with the mass immigration and "assimilation" your anti-white cult imposes on ALL white countries and ONLY white countries. Ergo,Anti-racist IS a code word for anti-white,used to push white geNOcide.

• eiriamach | Jul 10, 2012, 10:00 PM EDT

  1) It's racist to accuse non-whites of trying to destroy ANY culture. Don't bother trying to provide any evidence; you've written what we call an insupportable generalization, its only apparent use being to demonize non-whites! And WHAT IS "WHITE CULTURE"??? 2) There is nothing "inevitable" about racial conflict, and there's plenty of integration of races where NO "races collide." 3) We do not use the word "multicultural(ist)" to describe people; it does describe school syllabuses, libraries, large urban centers, most nations, etc. There is no contradiction in attaching "multicultural" to any of these. Words make sense in their usual contexts, while outside those contexts, they are often misused. You cannot build a viable argument on misuse of the word "multicultural." 4) If it made sense to speak of a "black culture" or a "white culture" (it doesn't make sense), it still would not follow that "blacks shouldn't be in white cultures, and vice versa." A culturally homogeneous nation is culturally impoverished. Co-existing cultural traditions influence and change each other-- generally a good thing because a stagnant, unchanging culture is what we call a "dead" culture. 5) Oh yeah, turn off the human compassion faucet, reject refugees, and drive out Muslims with hostility! When such actions characterize the "race" you wish to save, it won't be worth saving. Humanity would be better off without it. I think it's time now for you, IrishAndProud, to crawl back into your burrow and take you stormfront pals with you. Your paltry thinking is not worth anyone's time to reply.

• IrishAndProud | Jul 10, 2012, 09:21 PM EDT

  It is not white supremacism to want to avoid white culture being destroyed by non-whites...any more than it is black supremacism to want to avoid black culture being destroyed by non-blacks. A supremacist thinks that one race is supreme above all others; that is a farce because there is no such race. However, there is indeed a place for racial SEPARATISM which is totally different -- by itself -- from racial SUPERIORITY. Separatism merely seeks to avoid the inevitable cultural conflict which results when races collide; SUPERIORITY preaches a racial supremacy which is nowhere backed up by any facts. Big difference, between those two. Some take the separatism and run all the way to superiority, whereas I stop at the separatism. By itself, it makes sense. You cannot call yourself 'multiculturalist' without being contradictory...for if all these cultures you claim to love are all run together, they lose that very culture. In short, some races and cultures are incompatible with each other. This is why, where it's truly avoidable (as with Ireland), blacks shouldn't be in white cultures, and vice versa. I opposed the western colonization of Africa, and I oppose Africans in Ireland. You can't do anything about the former (since it's in the past), but you can do something about the latter. Don't take any more non-whites into Ireland, and shut off the public dole spigot. That alone would be a good start. The same with Muslims...I don't want to see the same things eventually happen to Irish culture (its churches and icons) that have happened and are happening in Afghanstan (the Buddhist statues), Mali (destruction of historic graves at Timbuktu) and Egypt (where the new Islamist government is already, openly, talking about destroying the pyramids...I kid you not!). That kind of thinking has no place or business in Ireland, either...who in their right mind would let that into Ireland?

• eiriamach | Jul 10, 2012, 09:07 PM EDT

  rogert(or f) thinks he can inoculate IC with the hate virus. "white people ... we love our race and want to protect it from anti-white genocidal maniacs who want us whites eliminated ... in the name of so-called 'anti-racism'." It would be misplaced kindness to call this jabberwocky a symptom of paranoia. It's white-supremacy racism, and it belongs in a very low-on-the-scale moral category. Mental illness is not contagious. But as the search engine experiment I suggested below shows, these racists chant the same mantra all over the Internet hoping to infect the blogosphere. They mess with the language. We all know what racism is, we know what "anti-racism" is, and we know "anti-racism" is NOT "code" for anything except opposition to racism. Roger cannot make words mean whatever he wants them to mean. Language is shaped by the whole of the language-speaking community. It's not malleable according to the goals of one self-serving group-- unless everyone else has become stupid all of a sudden. And language has plenty of resources for resisting roger's attempts to change the meanings of words to serve his white-supremacist racism-- satire, irony, and, heck, just any ordinary dictionary! So let's take a vote to see how he's doing here: How many of us think "anti-racism" MEANS "anti-white genocidal maniac"? ... Not buying into roger's mantra, eh? Then pat yourself on the back, you've still got your smarts, and we're still speaking a common language.

• onthetocks | Jul 10, 2012, 08:57 PM EDT

  Could those who have problems with "ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY" and Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White. say why they say these are racist or fascist or whatever it is they think they are. I am struggling to work this out. They appear to be stating some self evident truths.

• rogertucker89 | Jul 10, 2012, 08:35 PM EDT

  @dingle Your anti-white cult is unpopular.That`s why you won`t allow our fellow white citizens a genuine public discussion about your anti-white agenda of forcibly turning white countries brown(GENOCIDE) with mass immigration and "assimilation". You know if given the correct information and the free choice whites will reject you. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

• dingle999 | Jul 10, 2012, 08:20 PM EDT

  Hmm the 'the National Front' is not very popular in Ireland...

• rogertucker89 | Jul 10, 2012, 07:59 PM EDT

  Anti-whites such as Sean and eiriamach have got a cheek calling white people naziswhowanttokillsixmillionjews just because we love our race and want to protect it from anti-white genocidal maniacs who want us whites eliminated from the face of the Earth in the name of so-called "anti-racism". Genocide is genocide,it makes no difference if it is done with bullets and mustard gas,or mass immigration and social engineering Where can you hide your white genocide guilt anti-whites? For how much longer can your anti-white cult keep this discussion out of the public discourse? Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

• seanomelb | Jul 10, 2012, 07:41 PM EDT

  Really rogertucker89 the only genocides I can remember are the so called famine,the holocaust all committed by fascist "WHITES" like you. To take it a point further most illegal immigrants are the product of "WHITE" initiated wars either military or economic. Just admit it you and your ilk are racist bigots go blog on a fascist site where you would be welcome.Are you sure rogertucker89 should not have an '"F" instead of a "T"

• eiriamach | Jul 10, 2012, 07:11 PM EDT

  Some of the comments on this news article don't just drip racism, they gush it like Niagara Falls. Google any of the memes, and you will see lists of thousands of web sites-- go ahead, put a sentence in a search engine: "ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!" or that idiocy "Anti-racist is a code-word for anti-White." The words are the same on all the racist screeds. So the neo-Nazi cutters-and-pasters have decided to visit IC again! I wonder why they expect to recruit more racists here, she asked sardonically. It's sickening, offensive, dehumanizing, designed to make you vomit.

• rogertucker89 | Jul 10, 2012, 06:46 PM EDT

  re:sean You are a deliberately misinforming our fellow white citizens to justify their geNOcide. The geNOcide law does not require a "purity test" to be passed in order to protect a "national, ethnical, racial or religious group" from "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part". Such as imposing mass immigration and "assimilation"on ALL white countries and ONLY white countries. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

• seanomelb | Jul 10, 2012, 06:32 PM EDT

  I wonder if Mis-informed racists like Irishandproud and his ilk are just bog Irish ignorant or uneducated fools. If a white Irish person marries a black(probably Irish born) the child may be black and part Celt.The problem with IAP and his ilk is,that no Irish are "pure Celts" and in fact DNA shows that the Celtic Gene is less Irish than we were thought to believe. The point is we all suffer from a bigoted social history as to who we really are and that colour matters.

• onthetocks | Jul 10, 2012, 06:26 PM EDT

  Roger there is only one conclusion I have come to as to why anti-White want to do this and that is they are evil. How people can even listen to these people is beyond me. Nobody calls Chinese people who defend Asians hateful names. Nobody calls African people who defend Blacks hateful names. People only call Whites who defend their own people something nasty. And these people have the gall to call themselves anti-racists? What they are is anti-White Anti-racist is a code-word for anti-White

• rogertucker89 | Jul 10, 2012, 06:17 PM EDT

  Why do the anti-whites want to eliminate white children with massive immigration and "assimilation" imposed on EVERY white country and ONLY white countries? It is geNOcide according to international law. Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white.

• Conner | Jul 10, 2012, 06:02 PM EDT

  How many medals do African countries win?

• onthetocks | Jul 10, 2012, 05:55 PM EDT

  What drugs has Blackcelt been on? The Grimaldi remains are from Italy, suspect and certainly not definitely Negroid. Not interested. Clear off back to Africa and try inventing the wheel. The IQ gap is so well documented it has been tedious having to repeat it. Jessie Owens ran fast - so good at running away and running errands. Tell us about peanut butter. Then what? You give nothing to a country, you just take. We have machines to pick cotton these days.

• Conner | Jul 10, 2012, 05:48 PM EDT

  Oh and Black celts what happened to that black fighter Overeem, oh yea STEROIDS.

• Black Celt | Jul 10, 2012, 05:20 PM EDT

  IrishandProud Please visit some museums some day, You will see Museum and School Curriculums are starting to do away with the White Washed version of History, and returning to the original black roots. Look at the Fitzwilliam Museum in the UK to see them honoring the Black African Origins of Kemet(Egypt) Or go to the William Walters Museum to see them honoring the Blacks of Europe.

• Black Celt | Jul 10, 2012, 05:14 PM EDT

  Conner are you speaking of the klitchko who was left a bloody pulp by Lenox Lewis lmao. White people are so disappointed in UFC (Russian Prison Cage fighting). UFC was started with the purpose to show that whites (using steroids and PEDs) are now able to match blacks athletically without the rules and controls of boxing, where blacks have been dominating whites for nearly a century, In the beginning, they had 9 white boys for every black. Then came Anderson Silva, Rashan Evans, and Rampage to throw a monkey wrench into Dana White's scam. It seems like it been 5 years of Silva knocking white boys senseless, with ease. White UFC fans have a love/hate relationship with Silva. They waiting for him to lose, but know that if he does, the winner won't be near as good as Silva. Its common When Germany running around claiming to be the White superior race, Jesse Owens, Crossed The Atlantic Ocean to destroy german Whites and Raise the Black Power Fist in Hitlers face at HIS Olympics. Do you see why Whites are bullies and racist? Imagine the mankind is having a party, and here comes the Pale skin Extremely late, and with nothing good to show except for a few miniscule stone monuments. The Pale skin realized he was a Stale bread version of a hue-man. No history,No great Monuments, and no rhythm. Being a Stale Bread sent whites into a fit of rage, and there is where racism started and White Supremacy

• IrishAndProud | Jul 10, 2012, 05:05 PM EDT

  There is no such thing as a 'black celt,' folks...and this person who's using that on-screen name solely to irritate whites knows that. If you're black, you are not Irish (or European, either), and never have been, and never will be...not truly. You'll always be marked as indigenous to Africa, or the descendants thereof -- it doesn't matter if you live in Ireland/Europe for a hundred generations. Heck, they've been in the USA since the beginning, and STILL haven't assimilated; they keep their own neighborhoods (which are often disasters), cultures and ways. So what makes us think a bunch of Nigerians living off the dole in Ireland are just going to magically become 'Irish?' It's not going to happen, folks...but as we can see, what IS happening is that they're irritating the Irish people to no end. That's why I say it's much bettr to simply keep the races separate, rather than try to have them smashed all together just to show that 'they can be there, too.' They can't be, and such thinking is stupid. It leads to -- among other things -- bullying.

• Conner | Jul 10, 2012, 04:52 PM EDT

  Hey Black Celt look at what the Klitchiko brothers have been doing to your black brothas, destroying each and every one of them. White dominate in sports, how many olympics medals do black get lol, white dominate in the olympics.

• Black Celt | Jul 10, 2012, 04:41 PM EDT

  NorthernEnglish Im guessing your skull is as Thick as the Neanderthal whose homeland is the Caucus region. "Third Worlders" should be given precedence to every so called "White country" White countries would not exist or survive if Whites did not Exploit and dehumanize Black Countries of countries with people of color. Your food Would taste bland had you not Exploited the African and indian Spices. You would not know how to Breast feed your children if not for the Black Madonna and Child that whites bow down to worship. You would not have rubber had you not exploited the Region of the congo. You would not be a rich powerhouse if not for the People of HUE. So in Reality, So called White countries owe everything Times 100 to People of Hue.

• NorthernEnglish | Jul 10, 2012, 04:36 PM EDT

  Black Celt? THERE IS NO SUCH THING. Are you saying that black people built Europe then mysteriously vanished once their task was completed? Blacks belong in Africa, Muslims in their own countries. Why do Blacks always try to change history? The people Indigenous to Europe are WHITE. Germans, Italians, English etc. . . When we came across you in Africa, you had not even discovered the wheel.

• NorthernEnglish | Jul 10, 2012, 04:27 PM EDT

  Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries. The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them. Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites. What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries? How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem? And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this? But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews. They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

• Black Celt | Jul 10, 2012, 04:14 PM EDT

  Blacks are indigenous to Europe. The Grimaldi man proves this Fact. Lets not also forget the Vast amount of Black kings, nobles, knights etc. that dominated in Europe before it was called Europe. Irish legend said Peter Drove the Snakes out of ireland. Snake worship has its most ancient roots in African Culture which Africans Spread to the world. Whites not understanding this, and having deep seated hatred for africans Drove the African Snake Worshippers out of ireland. One can take a look at European Soccer to understand the uncontrollable, blood thirsty racism White Europeans have towards people of Hue. Just look at the story of San Calogero The Black North African Saint who had to save the lives of Mentally retarded whites who could not save themselves. After you read that story of San Calogero in Italy, Look up the story of the moors of Italy and Spain, And you will see why Whites hate blacks so much. Whites were ruled and Dominated by Blacks for a very long time. Black King held White serfs to serfdom, Whites do not want to Go back to being ruled or dominated, Which is why you see Whites Trying to mock Black hockey players, Swimmers, or anything deemed a white sport. Mocking the Black man will keep him away from their sport. Because if the Black Man goes into any of the White mans sports, Lets just look at what happened to The White sonnen when he faced the black anderson silva.

• dinarobin | Jul 10, 2012, 03:02 PM EDT

  "different races to stay out of each others' countries" you forgot that whites didn't only 'meddle' in Africa, they migrated en mass all over the world, helpfully handing out smallpox infected blankets to the natives amongst other things. But seriously, the Irish are grumbling about the impact of migration - the Irish?!?!

• IrishAndProud | Jul 10, 2012, 02:35 PM EDT

  Well folks...I know it isn't exactly 'trendy' (to some) in this new p.c. age to say, although I do believe the silent majority agree with me...and that is that it's probably best -- to merely prevent things like bullying and racial friction -- for the different races to stay out of each others' countries. Whites shouldn't have meddled in (and colonized) Africa, for instance; and blacks really shouldn't be in Ireland. Now in places like the USA, blacks have been present from the get-go (and not by their own free will, either), but IRELAND? They cannot assimilate into such a culture, because they're simply too racially and culturally different and always will be, even after a hundred generations. So, it's best they (and Asians, and Muslims, too) simply not be there.

• WoundedKnee | Jul 10, 2012, 12:07 PM EDT

  The BaldProd: What a stupid post by you. Care to give us some evidence of the kind of comments you're referring to, or is it all coming out of your weird imagination? I don't believe I have ever seen a post here which blamed the victim of racism, but maybe you did. Give us the evidence. Or maybe the racist filth is coming form your mind?

• Kevin Longan | Jul 10, 2012, 11:08 AM EDT

  It is always so one-sided, whites accused of being racist while our countries are being over-ran by "minorities." My country is currently inundated with Mexicans, Asians and other newcomers; our education and judicial systems can barely keep up and taxes are unreal in order to deal with these usurpers. I'm part native-American so don't bring that into the mix! Anyway I have experienced racism first-hand in north and south Asia so I have little sympathy for the children of those stealing my Irish brothers and sisters' jobs. Sorry, that's how I feel..

• pilib04 | Jul 10, 2012, 10:57 AM EDT

  My comment should have included, bullying, not limited to racial bullying.

• pilib04 | Jul 10, 2012, 10:57 AM EDT

  Children can behave beastly. No doubt about it. Particularly children ages 12-15. This is rampant not just in Ireland but also the USA.

• Portia777 | Jul 10, 2012, 09:48 AM EDT

  No surprise here then. I am Irish, grew up there, worked there for 40 years, taught there. It is so racist, gender biased as to be beyond belief to the outside world. Yes, the system fails to deal with bullying of outsiders.Listen to the adults in Irish society- they despise non whites and non catholics. it is bred into them. Not long ago HSE issued proceedings forbidding my Irish catholic children to associate with alien barbarian Japs and bloody Europeans. The judge rubber stamped it. That says it as it is. Father Ted illustrated the racism so well.

• TheBaldProd | Jul 10, 2012, 09:44 AM EDT

  Oh Lord. How long will it take before the comments page is full of the usual racist filth suggesting people of colour are themselves to blame for the racism directed against them? Here we go...