Shock as Orange Order leader seeks permission for Dublin parade

Belphagor, I understand that you find the term 'Orangies' offensive. I would like to make it clear that your attempted rewriting of the history of the island of Ireland, is offensive to those who actually lived it. Well I remember when you Orange ba$t aords marched into my home estate and burned the houses to the ground. Take your tearful "Orange Culture" crup and shove it. We won't forget. (intentional misspelling)

Are you serious? Is there not enough hatred and violence stirred up every year as it is. Will they be wearing their KKK outfits? I cannot understand the thinking that would even allow marches like these to occur in the first place. It is plain and simple a hate crime and should be banned.

It's time to BEGIN "demonizing" and outlawing these bigoted squatters the same way in which their cousins in the Klan were marginalized in the US.

"Grand Secretary says it is time to stop demonizing Orangemen" ..and its time for for members of the Orange Order to stop parading around Catholic Churches in the North playing "The Famine Song" as they AGREED they would no longer do, yet did this past July 12th. When the Orange Order starts behaving responsibly then they will see the "demonizing" stop.

@Belphagor - please - this is pure comedy. The orange thugs burn the names of murdered children in effigy at their baal ceremony bonfires. What do you think would happen if the indigenous community organized a triumphal march through orange neighborhoods - massive violence against non-combatants in which the RUC/PSNI would encourage or participate in. I'm sure there were no orange"men" at holy cross terrorizing those schood children.

Right...and all Catholics should be rounded up tied and forced to watch naked with their heads bowed in defeat so brave these little orangies.... really I think King Billy's warriors would be shamed to have these orange weenies march for them...just my opinion...

I think we should leave them do some marches. We are probably not ready for a O Connell street one though. I recon that leaving them come down would help them reconcile the Irish part of their british identity which they will have to do should we ever want peace on the whole island. There is an orange lodge in dublin and I've been challenged by reading some of the articles on their website. Google loyal orange Lodge 1313 if your interested.

Jimmie the Orange Order do not throw rocks at anyone, they are a peaceful organisation, you know nothing son. I don't expect you to understand however, the principle behind the parades is no different than americans celebrating 4th July and less hypocritical than americans celebrating St Patricks Day, most of them haven't been born or lived in Ireland, enough said. By calling Orangemen 'Orangies' you are being offensive to Orangemen, just thought I'd point that out. I would also like to voice my disgust at the media's reluctance to report the weekly attacks on Orange Halls by Irish Republican thugs.Last week after a peaceful traditional feeder parade Republicans turned Ardoyne into a hell hole by throwing stones at protestants, the police and even burning cars owned by their own people. Later that night they fired shots and threw petrol bombs at the police. it wasn't Orangemen who did this, in fact if the orange order were ever to condone violence or become involved in it they would be banned, you need to read more about them before you insult them. Helen Ferone, for Ireland to 'reunite' it would first have to have been united and the only time it has ever been united was when it was governed as part of the UK, before this the clans in the four parts of Ireland were at war with one another.Despite what many americans think, Ireland and Britain have a good relationship, we are the same people and share the same culture, unfortunately there are a small number of people who try hard to create divisions and long may they fail.

These orangies have to be the strangest meanest spirited people on the planet?....So insecure about who they are now they march to celebrate a victory hundreds of years ago?...they them selves had no part in the victory but try to grab credit? cant imagine the orginal victors would be pleased to share honors with these weenies ...they also like to throw rocks at little girls?...where do they come from?

The first Orange Lodge in Nigeria was the Lagos Fine Blues LOL 801, which was first listed in 1907 in the returns of Woolwhich District 64 to the Grand Orange Lodge of England. Altogether there were three male lodges and one female lodge. They all appear to have died out some time in the 1960s, due to political unrest. Conversely the Ghana lodges increased greatly in popularity with the return of democracy

amusing WoundedKnee ya gotta laugh at your cynicism.

There are a lot of Nigerian Orangemen, indeed that country has one of the highest rates of Orange Lodges outside of Britain. Since there are tens of thousands of nigerians in Dublin, I am sure they have one or two Lodges. In the spirit of true multiculturalism, I suggest that Orangemen be allowed parade in Dublin, but only if they are Africans.

I think its about time the Irish reunite, and give up this nonsense from long ago. They're entitled to march in the parade without any kind of violence, but that's not likely to happen, is it?

If 'Gay' (sic) Pride can march in Dublin, why not Orange Pride - though both are quite understandable in culturally polar galaxies. If 33% of the Irish tricolour is orange, does that not predicate that 33% of marches in All Ireland should be orange. Is not the holy trinity of French/Irish republicanism - liberty/equality/fraternity! Even if 96% of 'Northern Ireland' unionists/loyalists/protestants would vote against the departition of Ireland(?), the percentage would be less in Ulster as a whole. Orangemen should be allowed march not just in the Ulster/Northern Ireland and Munster/southern Ireland - but also in Leinster/eastern Ireland and Connacht/western Ireland. The 26 county proto-republic administration could consult with Ulster/NI Parades Commission. There was no Irish Republic in 1690, only an Ireland generically. There's a difference between imperial unionism and democratic unionism. Contentious parades like Jeoffry's 'Love Ulster' (sic) was of the former variant. O'Connell Street is unsuitable. The Phoenix Park, as the largest enclosed park in Europe, could be easily secured for democratic Orangemen to parade along Chesterfield Avenue/Castleknock Road past Áras an Úachtaran, and easily accessible along North Circular Road from Ulster/NI (GoogleEarth it!) Whilst the church which styles itself the Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church has some sackcloth and ashes atoning yet to do for the Crusades/Inquisition/institutional child sexual abuse, cultivating a hateful anthithetical religion to it, whilst understandable, is hardly Christianable. Don't just love NI but all of Ulster. Don't just love Ulster, but all of Ireland. Like concentrated Orange Squash, the instructions are 'dilute-to-taste!'

Better buy some surplus vests with plates from Iraq. Some very serious things could go wrong here.