Good Catholics can not be Democrats argues Kansas Irish American politician
Says Democratic platform on gay marriage is counter to Christ’s teaching
Published Tuesday, October 16, 2012, 7:11 AM
Updated Tuesday, October 16, 2012, 4:46 PM
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joeg2028 | Oct 17, 2012, 12:35 PM EDT
If Fitzgerald is correct, the outcome is predictable: a lot of Democrats will leave the Catholic Church--and take their money with them. I was a Cathoic for over 60 years, but luckily a demogogic bishop in Denver enlightened me enough before the 2008 election to drive me away. What a relief.
And to those of you who've commented about Democrats being prodeath or for abortion and contraception, they are more realistic than the antiabortionists, who want all fetuses brought to term and then, when their parents can't afford to raise those children, turn their backs on those families and say, "not our problem." And when some children born into poverty grow up and turn to crime to feed their own families, the prolifer Republicans are more than eager to build more prisons rather than spend the money when these people are children and provide the education, nurturing, and love that they need. Where's the logic in THAT? Hence, Dems try to solve that conundrum by allowing people to PLAN their families through contraception and by allowing a woman to decide whether, when pregnant, she can afford to raise that child at that point in time, knowing that she has a constitutional right to end a pregnancy. Those who call themselves "prolife" in this context are misrepresenting themselves because they are that only until the time the child leaves the womb. They have charity only for the unborn, not the living--and especially not to those women who decide that abortion is the best choice for her and her family.
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twoeagles | Oct 17, 2012, 10:40 AM EDT
I cannot perceive any Christian voting the Democrat ticket because the Bible condemns both homosexuality and the killing of innocents. It's not a position the Catholic church has taken but God's word. I am pro life , pro gun , pro traditional marriage and pro death penalty for people who commit heinous crimes.
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BrianO | Oct 17, 2012, 09:57 AM EDT
@readabook, Yea who would want truth, or justice, Or the American way. My earlier post simply points out that if you rail against the positions of the Catholic church on abortion, Marriage, suicide, then you are a Catholic in name only. Fitzgerald point is that a person who is pro abortion, pro gay marriage,pro assisted suicide would be against the Catholic Church and it's stances. All are free to express their opinions still in this country(unless you post a youtube video about islam) but don't claim to be Catholic and then rail against what they stand for.
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eiriamach | Oct 17, 2012, 09:42 AM EDT
Catholics like Fitzgerald are committing political suicide in the USA.
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IrelandNorth | Oct 17, 2012, 06:02 AM EDT
In Ireland (26 county proto-republic of) there are Fianna Fail (FF)/Republican Party - Fine Gael (FG)/Christian Democrats - Sinn Fein (SF)/Centrist - Labour (Lab)/Centre Left - Socialist Party(SP)/Left - Socialist Workers' Party (SWP)/Far Left plus numerous independent deputies forming a United Left Alliance (ULA)/Technical Group (TG). In Ireland (6 county neo-province of) there are the Ulster Unionist Party (UUP) - Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) - Social Democratic and Labour Party (SDLP) - Sinn Fein (SF) - Progressive Unionist Party (PUP) - Traditional Unionist Party (TUP), ie a party for every country in the neo-province. That is 12 political parties for a poopulation of circa 6 million people. If that ain't representativeness, I don't know what is? Coalition governments of tow or more parties often form which for some of us at least, are actually a paragon of the representative democratic paradigm, in that they moderate ideological extremes. PS Some of us are adverse to homosexual unions whilst also believing in distributive justice.
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IrelandNorth | Oct 17, 2012, 05:40 AM EDT
Real question is, can good Catholics support the ecclesia which styles itself the Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church within which there has been consistent evidence of institutionalised clerical child sexual abuse. Perhaps its time for a third political party in the USA for those who are economically liberal yet morally conservative. We could call them Remocrats or Depublicans.
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cillowen | Oct 17, 2012, 12:12 AM EDT
what a moron
lyin cultist figure Romney is about slicing and dicing - his remarks clearly show that his Jesus(white)lucifer(browns) thinking on 47%ers whom he deems shiftless and lazy fits his mormon belief.
With all the drinking by Ryan at his debate I wonder if he was wearing depends to hide his peein
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Tedmiller | Oct 16, 2012, 09:38 PM EDT
Ethics and morality should never be trumped by dogma. By what authority does Mr. FitzGerald speak for all Catholics?
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phinsman | Oct 16, 2012, 09:37 PM EDT
Fitzgerald's perspective is totally inaccurate... I would guess a significant percentage of Catholics are very liberal and open minded. Would liberal Catholics say that every Catholic can't be a Republican? No!
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curtisjohnson | Oct 16, 2012, 09:16 PM EDT
It's a rough choice between amoral and souless secular progressives and neocon war mongers.
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Bocktherobber | Oct 16, 2012, 08:08 PM EDT
Good girl, Nicoletta. Nobody died in the invasion of Iraq, right?
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Nicoletta | Oct 16, 2012, 07:46 PM EDT
Fitzgerald is right. How could you be a Catholic and support Obama, probably the most pro-death President the US has ever had.
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christinao't | Oct 16, 2012, 06:50 PM EDT
Most Irish are literate in some way. We just need to remain free thinkers. This group think that the Dems are good and Repubs are bad is simply childish. Meanwhile your dear Dem party keep moving farther away from anything you ancestors ever dreamed of in their wildest nightmare! Communism is not cool! Your Prez is a communist weather he wants you to know it or not. Look at his history and what he has done. Most people are smart enough now not to rely on the alphabet soup tv stations and dinosaur papers to get the truth! Obama voted 4 times that any child who survived an abortion should not be assisted in anyway to live, basically left to die. You think he cares about you or anyone? I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you!!!
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Magdaleno | Oct 16, 2012, 06:45 PM EDT
Fitzerald you better take another look at our US Constitution especially Article 14... you tea baggers and GOP cannot select what you consider correct for yourself and impose your ideas on people. All of us are free to think for ourselfs and i would not dictate what people should be... it's on each one of us to know what is correct in our Christian life. I believe that life is at conception and man and woman are one at marrige. You might want to take a look at the Mormon church... it is not Christian but a cult. "Just one of their ideas -- The holy spirit is different from the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost is not God, but is an influence or electricty like emanation from God [ or" light of Christ'"] "They also believe that Jesus was married". Now do i tell you that you cannot belong to the GOP because another man has a different religion and is running for office which you support-- No you are free man and you have a right to support whoever you want... i fought two wars that you might live in FREEDOM.
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