CA Democrat John Burton compares Paul Ryan tactics to Nazi propaganda director Joseph Goebbels
GOP vice presidential candidate's speech still controversial a week later
Published Wednesday, September 5, 2012, 8:16 AM
Updated Thursday, September 6, 2012, 12:27 PM
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Padraig8 | Sep 06, 2012, 11:27 AM EDT
Unless i read it wrong he did not say that any
one was a Nazi. He said the Romney Ryan duo
were like Josef Goebbles. That refers to Propaganda not the Holocaust. He is Right
they do Lie about everything and have the same
type of gullible people believing the lies
i remember the Goebbles era and that was what it was like, Repeat a lie often enough and some
people will believe it. i saw no reference to
Nazis or holocaust so give the guy a break.
He is just ticked off about the BIG LIES
that R&R are telling.
tiocfaidh ar la
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eiriamach | Sep 06, 2012, 08:27 AM EDT
We shouldn't toss out Holocaust or Nazi references UNLESS we're dealing with Neo-Nazis! In today's GOP, there are plenty of Neo-Nazis. Ben Jealous, NAACP Pres., July 2010: "We take no issue with the Tea Party. We believe in freedom of assembly and people raising their voices in a democracy. We take issue with the Tea Party's continued tolerance for bigotry and bigoted statements. The time has come for them to accept the responsibility that comes with influence and make clear there is no space for racism and anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry in their movement." Republicans never denounced white-supremacist racism in the Tea Party movement, though there's no denying it exists--photos and You Tube videos are there for anyone to see. They've never corrected their Big Lies either. Ryan may not be a Nazi, but he is a Big Liar who benefits from Tea Party racism.
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EphraimKibbey | Sep 06, 2012, 01:47 AM EDT
If EVERYONE else says something is a lie and repeatedly shows you the evidence for its falsehood, but you continue to defend it as the truth, what does that say about your ability to reason?
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irishpjk | Sep 05, 2012, 11:59 PM EDT
wtf Read where Burton is from, the chairman of the California delegation, now look at Burtons photo. Need I comment?
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JimmieM | Sep 05, 2012, 09:19 PM EDT
dumber than dirt....he wants to say something bad about Ryan and knows that poo poo head just doesn't get it so he tries to be all manly by naming him with nazi people...like he is just like the people who murdered millions of people? yea what a dumb guy it would be funny but it is dangerous and will get some people killed because some are dumb enough to believe him and consider Ryan a nazi
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HollowDemocracy | Sep 05, 2012, 07:53 PM EDT
Is it my imagination or Paul Ryan actually looks like Joseph Goebbels in addition to imitating his tactics?
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aloistmartin | Sep 05, 2012, 06:17 PM EDT
What a Couple Rounds of Golf, Two Martinis, a French Dip Roast Beef Sandwich and a side of Steak Fries, wont do for a Bourgeois Politicians sense of Super Ego ... Joseph Goebbels, Indeed !
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aloistmartin | Sep 05, 2012, 05:56 PM EDT
Now as an independent I was say the exact opposite is true. The Democrats are masters of disinformation and obscuring truth. Did did such a good job that Obama, a virtual unknown with absolutely no experience except for being a radical organizer, never held a real job in his life, with such an obscure/questionable past....got elected.
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JohnGalt | Sep 05, 2012, 01:54 PM EDT
No U.S. politician - before or after Nazi Germany - can lay claim to the concept of the Big Lie ... from Sam Adams and John Hancock, tea smugglers who used Mafia tactics of destroying private property (for which the government reimbursed the Dutch Indies) so that they could charge MORE than the price of "English" tea ... to the Emancipation Proclamation, to the invasion of Mexico (Alamo, etc....) "Remember the Maine", Gulf of Tonkin .... Iraq's WMD's ... you name it.
The Big Lie has been national policy since Day One.
But I'm still amazed that neither the Democrats, nor the press, nor anyone has noted the statements made by Romney and Ryan ... that "there are 23 million unemployed Americans."
Actually, the number is less than 13 million. 'not sure whether this qualifies as a lie or ignorance.
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BrianO | Sep 05, 2012, 12:43 PM EDT
one representative doesn't tarnish a complete party. The record of Barrack Obama should be scrutinized and thought about. If you truly believe in the actions of the democrats and the results of their actions, the vote for them. If you believe that the fundamentals that allowed American's to succeed have been attacked then vote Republican.
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slainte9 | Sep 05, 2012, 11:34 AM EDT
Hilarious hypocrisy on the Democratic side. Comparing someone who isn't a Nazi to a Nazi is the Big Lie incarnate. Vice Presidents are the biggest nobodies anyway. Who cares about Ryan or Biden.
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handsome68 | Sep 05, 2012, 11:25 AM EDT
How sad for our beloved country that the demonization of the other major party results in such bitter polarization. Republicans might say equally that President Obama is very like Hitler in his ability to sway the masses with his rhetoric. "The pot calls the kettle black" is a term that comes to mind. I grieve that the likelihood is that people will vote in the lesser of the two candidates. Benj. Franklin had said, "You have a republic.... , if you can keep it". I worry that we will not keep it much longer, and that a dictator will replace the president.
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jamthecat | Sep 05, 2012, 10:39 AM EDT
There's an old saying -- "If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it's a duck." That's today's GOP and their use of the Big Lie. Burton should not have even begun to apologize for his comparison because that is exactly what Ryan and Romney are doing -- repeating lie after lie after lie, even in the face of evidence showing they're lying, knowing there are plenty of people out there stupid enough to believe their lies. Pointing out that they're using a tactic perfected by Goebbels is no insult to the victims of the Holocaust; it's a warning that the GOP and the money handed them by a few billionaires out to line their own pockets are a danger to Democracy in America.
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seanaci | Sep 05, 2012, 10:31 AM EDT
The Nazi comparison is always an easy but overused call. I I feel Paul Ryan's influences is closer to his Irish roots. Despite him pushing his Roman Catholic faith, to me he is closer to the orators of the Orange Order with there divisive and partisan rhetoric. In this he is also pandering to the "them and us" theme that has become the bedrock of of US politics again - a throwback to the Know Nothing Party.
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