Sinn Fein president Gerry Adams calls for Border poll to create a United Ireland

@Warrenpoint00 - well then we are agreed!! (there's a turn-up for the books :)!!)

BarneyJoe,you are absolutely correct in your assessment of the Irish free state, it is and from its formation it was and it always will be a failed entity.We nationalist/republicans in the north of our country are very aware of this and we would never expect or ask anyone to do what we were forced to do ,and that is to sign up too or join something that has utterly failed the majority of the Irish people. Our country can and will be a prosperous nation again one day with the help of new emigrants to our country,that I am sure of, not by the boring old partitionist diatribe emanating from Leinster house or indeed by the premature antics,misleading empty rhetoric and political aspirations of a reformed republican political party.A new Ireland and a new constitution for all Irish people ,I hope you do live to see it Barneyjoe, it may not be that far off.

@Warrenpoint00 - then we seem to be reaching the same conclusion albeit by differing paths. I have to say that I remain confident enough in my own personal view that at least in the short to medium term, that sovereignty based on an inclusive 32 county model is not in the offing; and I say that for two reasons; 1) the tradition, mindset and aspiration of that section of the population of which we speak. 2)If a Nation State cannot sustain the lives and well being of its populace to the point where its brightest and best have to up and leave over countless generations, or if a Nation State cannot meet its commitments or honour its liabilities at home or abroad, then surely that State has to be deemed as a failed entity. I doubt if I will live to see it, but I have hopes for a "New Republic" which will encompass all colours and creeds and one which will treasure and value all of its children from whichever tradition they come!!

This site is an absolute JOKE!

I don't understand why Adams is calling for a border poll at this time, suely he knows it would be soundly defeated. What is the point in this? Me thinks he may have something up his sleeve. Trouble is I do not know what.

I don't understand why Adams is calling for a border poll at this time, suely he knows it would be soundly defeated. What is the point in this? Me thinks he may have something up his sleeve. Trouble is I do not know what.

I don't understand why Adams is calling for a border poll at this time, suely he knows it would be soundly defeated. What is the point in this? Me thinks he may have something up his sleeve. Trouble is I do not know what.

I don't understand why Adams is calling for a border poll at this time, suely he knows it would be soundly defeated. What is the point in this? Me thinks he may have something up his sleeve. Trouble is I do not knwo what.

I don't understand why Adams is calling for a border poll at this time, suely he knows it would be soundly defeated. What is the point in this? Me thinks he may have something up his sleeve. Trouble is I do not knwo what.

I don't understand why Adams is calling for a border poll at this time, suely he knows it would be soundly defeated. What is the point in this? Me thinks he may have something up his sleeve. Trouble is I do not knwo what.

Hello Barneyjoe aka??????.No Barney it must be the cold snap that we are having that is confusing your thoughts but I think you are confusing me with Sean in Melbourne another very proud and optimistic Irishman might I add.My answer to your question that I have touched on many times is not a short term fix for our country,s problems.As I have stated that right now there are no political or military solutions to those problems in my country.I think Adams call for a border poll is very premature,twenty five years premature to be exact.Of course you must be well aware that there is a huge influx of foreign nationals that continue to make our country their home and much to the distaste and anger of those same loyalist/unionist you fondly talk about.It will be the children and their children that will change entirely the demographics of our nation.Your loyalist/unionists friends will at this stage have no relevance or , have a veto over the wishes of the people of Ireland.You see barney your loyalist/ unionist friends are in rapid decline.Gone are the days they could muster hundreds of thousands of men and women to sign their names in blood, they can now only manage to assemble a few hundred in response to the exact same issues. Where are their numbers going to be in the future?I think that the loyalist/unionist people will have reverted to being plain old presbyterians at this stage and their input will be welcome in a new and prosperous Ireland.Democracy is the answer Barney, something we did,nt have in Ireland in a long ,long, time.

@Warrenpoint00 - This kind of feels like Groundhog day. I seem to recall that in a previous exchange that you had volunteered that although you are from the Warrenpoint area, that you do not live there at present. Has that changed? If not, then I deduce (rightly or wrongly) that you continue to seek to solve Ireland's travails from afar. I am in Ireland as I type this, and I continue to observe the ebb and flow of political life (all politics being local!!) Now, having reflected on your post, and, taking into account the recent demographic information that has come to light, let me put the same question, hypothetically this time; how do you pursuade/ coerce a significantly large section of the population of the six counties, numbering several hundred thousand, to accept or buy into a new dispensation predicated on a 32 county Sovereign idyll, particularly when that grouping has no allegiance to, or no shared values with that proposed dispensation? You speak fondly of achieving this without the help of Loyalists/ Unionists; how then? With no border poll in the offing on either side of the "frontier", how will this "New Jerusalem" emerge? I am genuinely interested in your vision of the way ahead, albeit with some more flesh on the bone than heretofore!!

@Warrenpoint00 - This kind of feels like Groundhog day. I seem to recall that in a previous exchange that you had volunteered that although you are from the Warrenpoint area, that you do not live there at present. Has that changed? If not, then I deduce (rightly or wrongly) that you continue to seek to solve Ireland's travails from afar. I am in Ireland as I type this, and I continue to observe the ebb and flow of political life (all politics being local!!) Now, having reflected on your post, and, taking into account the recent demographic information that has come to light, let me put the same question, hypothetically this time; how do you pursuade/ coerce a significantly large section of the population of the six counties, numbering several hundred thousand, to accept or buy into a new dispensation predicated on a 32 county Sovereign idyll, particularly when that grouping has no allegiance to, or no shared values with that proposed dispensation? You speak fondly of achieving this without the help of Loyalists/ Unionists; how then? With no border poll in the offing on either side of the "frontier", how will this "New Jerusalem" emerge? I am genuinely interested in your vision of the way ahead, albeit with some more flesh on the bone than heretofore!!

a united catholic ireland, your delusional, that's not what the IRB or 1916 uprising was about producing. If you think being irish is just about being catholic, then my friend, i as a RC would rather not be a part of it. If Gerry runs his PSF campaign on that he will NEVER get voted into power.

a united catholic ireland, your delusional, that's not what the IRB or 1916 uprising was about producing. If you think being irish is just about being catholic, then my friend, i as a RC would rather not be a part of it. If Gerry runs his PSF campaign on that he will NEVER get voted into power.