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Sinn Fein president Gerry Adams calls for Border poll to create a United Ireland

Launch of new campaign spurred on by new sense of identity found in census

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Wishing the very best for my hero Gerry Adams and ALL Ireland. (I said I'd return to the forum after re-election of my own President Barack Obama; working on his behalf took up all my free time for over a year.)
@warrenpoint00 - remind me again where you reside at present; Warrenpoint, Rostrevor, Newry? Do you wish to divulge to all viewing posters, where you actually reside? I seem to recall that you DONT presently reside in Ireland, is that not the case?
@warrenpoint00 - good call. However you still dont explain how you intend to frogmarch that unionist/loyalist rump into the political dispensation of which you speak, or how you pursuade them to buy into it. That is still several hundred thousand souls we are talking about after all. And the flag issue is hardly trivial, when it is the Union Flag and not the Tri-colour which flies over Belfast City Hall. There are many Belfast Nationalists & Republicans who would take issue with your observations on this I'll bet!!
IrelandNorth, of trivial relevance is the flag issues that which actually still flies over Belfast and while it is a small and important step on the road to reunification it is not evactly what all the young men and women had in mind when they dedicated their lives to at the behest of the revolutionary aspirations of Gerry Adams.Of less relevance to all republicans is Gerry,s daily rant about a shared future with unionist\loyalist when he must know as we all do that live here, that those unionist]loyalists don,t want to share anything with the Irish people.
Seems the young Turks are at odds with the older and wiser Greeks on this subject. A struggle between youthful idealism and mature pragmatism. A younger Chief Crazy Horse thought the older Chief Sitting Bull a tad ponderous. A real and present danger is the more impulsive youngsters may not appreciate the complexities of the game being played. Has the union jack been lowered from over Belfast City Hall?
pilib04. You waste as many benefits and presumptions as you like. I am well on record as a SF basher. I will proudly bash anyone who tells people to pass information to the brits. Information on anyone who adheres to the proclamation which gives them the right to bear arms. The Proclamation SF leaders believe they have the right to rewrite in order to camoflage their jumping into bed with the brits. Information that would have gotten people executed for passing ( with exceptions depending on who you were related to of course). The brits always said the provos had no support either when they were out robbing post offices etc to finance the war. Because I don`t believe in millitary action at this time doesn`t mean anyone that does is what the shinners have called them. Funny how recently when SF`s Padraig Wilson was remanded into custody he requested to be housed in the Republican wing with all those people Gerry and Martin have called criminals.
pilib04. You waste as many benefits and presumptions as you like. I am well on record as a SF basher. I will proudly bash anyone who tells people to pass information to the brits. Information on anyone who adheres to the proclamation which gives them the right to bear arms. The Proclamation SF leaders believe they have the right to rewrite in order to camoflage their jumping into bed with the brits. Information that would have gotten people executed for passing ( with exceptions depending on who you were related to of course). The brits always said the provos had no support either when they were out robbing post offices etc to finance the war. Because I don`t believe in millitary action at this time doesn`t mean anyone that does is what the shinners have called them. Funny how recently when SF`s Padraig Wilson was remanded into custody he requested to be housed in the Republican wing with all those people Gerry and Martin have called criminals.
Spot on Warrenpoint00.
pilib04, As you are probably aware by now all traditional republicans in Ireland agree that Gerry and Sinn Fein even though they are part of the pan nationalist front they are merely a constitutional political party now and their republican values take a back seat. As we all know they have adhered to the status quo in the north of our country.Gerry and Sinn Fein have managed to steal the nationalist voters from the SDLP and quite frankly Sinn Fein are now just a political mirror image of the SDLP. Gerry is calling for a border poll ,hoping to appease the liberal republicans and hopefully secure their vote come election time.Gerry and Sinn Fein are not going to bring about a reunited Ireland with their brand of constitutional politics, all republicans are well aware of that, of course they will contribute to it just like SDLP,Fianna Fail and Fianna Gael do.The demographics of our country are changing rapidly, the families of foreign workers streaming into our country will eventually determine the future and the unity of our country .Gerry is merely jumping on the bandwagon he is a little premature with his border poll, we republicans would call it political point scoring.
Seamus60, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and presume that you are not a Sinn Fein basher! That you are not a supporter of a handful of dissidents without any support in the Republic or Northern Ireland. Since Sinn Fein MLA Martin McGuinness became deputy First Minister, Republicans have begun referring to the six counties as Northern Ireland. It is not a litmus test for being a Republican, but it is certainly NOT a disqualifier for being a Republican. The dissidents in any case, have done nothing but damage the peace process.
Any border determination must be up to the vote of the people and NOT the "Unionist Veto." Polls, politicians, and what people think, are not plebiscites! There should be a plebiscite on partition, every 10 years MINIMUM.
ToryTory! Fair point about tortuous prose. Let be more succinct. Census returns for NI showed 6% majority who identify as OTHER than British (Northern Ireland Statistics and Research Agency (NIS&RA, Household Survey, 2011). How is this Anglo-ascendent? ancavker! True, to a point. But the people in the south who did nothing are comprised of different classes, some of whome did somewhat more than el zippo. Will Hamilton! A poll for Ireland as a whole constitutionally re-connecting with Great Britain (GB) would undoubtedly get a fractional vote, not lease from Dublin 4 and environs. But the percentage would likely be a lot less than from unionist for a United Ireland (UI), however one might underestimate that to be. If the Irish taxpayer can bail out its banks, it can bail out Northern Ireland (NI). The 50th anniversary Ipsos/Marketing Research Bureau of Ireland (MRBI), 2012 Attitudes Survey showed that 69% of those polled would be willing to pay higher taxes to fund a united Ireland.
"A new Ireland can be what we make it. The Border poll is a key element of this. It provides an opportunity to focus on the future: to build a modern, dynamic, new Ireland ... a more equitable society can emerge.” Sounds like socialist propaganda. Are you still a Frankfurt School Cultural Marxist, Gerry or have you realised Ireland is for Irish people and not every one else?
Bostonrugby. Good idea about Gerry looking after his voters, something he totally forgot to do for decades in WestBelfast. Sure its still one of the most impoverished wards in the North cause he`s such a smart politician. He has long since stopped contributing to the struggle from a Republican perspective otherwise he would not be telling anyone to pass information to the British. The same british he won`t trust in any truth commission but he`ll trust them to lock up and Intern Irish citizens with nothing against them except a licence, carried over from an action he more than likely gave the order for in the first place. As a Republican who does not believe in millitary action at this time I would ask you, how many Republicans are charged with drug offences as for post offices robberies we wont mention what the lads were at when they shot Mc Cabe.
humpy dumpy can never be put put together
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