Sinn Fein president Gerry Adams calls for Border poll to create a United Ireland
Launch of new campaign spurred on by new sense of identity found in census
Published Thursday, January 17, 2013, 7:37 AM
Updated Thursday, January 17, 2013, 2:47 PM
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FallsRNat | Jan 22, 2013, 04:29 PM EST
a united catholic ireland, your delusional, that's not what the IRB or 1916 uprising was about producing. If you think being irish is just about being catholic, then my friend, i as a RC would rather not be a part of it.
If Gerry runs his PSF campaign on that he will NEVER get voted into power.
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FallsRNat | Jan 22, 2013, 04:29 PM EST
a united catholic ireland, your delusional, that's not what the IRB or 1916 uprising was about producing. If you think being irish is just about being catholic, then my friend, i as a RC would rather not be a part of it.
If Gerry runs his PSF campaign on that he will NEVER get voted into power.
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FallsRNat | Jan 22, 2013, 04:29 PM EST
a united catholic ireland, your delusional, that's not what the IRB or 1916 uprising was about producing. If you think being irish is just about being catholic, then my friend, i as a RC would rather not be a part of it.
If Gerry runs his PSF campaign on that he will NEVER get voted into power.
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ToryTory | Jan 21, 2013, 09:00 AM EST
IrelandNorth: that's just flawed induction. Anyone is well within their rights to reject your conclusion because it's arbitrarily induced. You're just projecting your biases on the data.
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ToryTory | Jan 21, 2013, 09:00 AM EST
IrelandNorth: that's just flawed induction. Anyone is well within their rights to reject your conclusion because it's arbitrarily induced. You're just projecting your biases on the data.
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ToryTory | Jan 21, 2013, 09:00 AM EST
IrelandNorth: that's just flawed induction. Anyone is well within their rights to reject your conclusion because it's arbitrarily induced. You're just projecting your biases on the data.
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seamus60 | Jan 20, 2013, 06:27 PM EST
IrelandNorth. "What ye sow so shall ye reap" could quite easily be a reflection on what happens when SF get into power. As a result of their advancements into the political arena 36 of the 40 most deprived wards in the North are Nationalist. An achievement for them by all accounts, otherwise Gerry Kelly wouldn`t have used the same figures on the Nolan show to confirm to loyalists that they were loosing nothing. Adams confirmed as below.
As for age mellowing individuals outlook, that would tie in nicely with the argument of Adams and Mc Guinness grasping at the Sunningdale agreement once they had reached maturity. Not before playing out 2 of the over the hill generals who have always sent the young man ( turk or otherwise)out of the trench till the very last minute.
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seamus60 | Jan 20, 2013, 06:11 PM EST
Barneyjoe. Declan Kearney was on a TV show recently along with Mike Nessbit. Kearney was dribbling out the party script about coming
togetherness, when Nessbit agreed it was a nice speech he then asked Kearney "HOW". Kearney all a fluster, started dribbling out the same speech for a second time in what was clearly an attempt to zap time. Noel Thompson had to remind Kearney the viewers had already heard him first time round. The result, Kearney was the usual SF rabbit caught in the lights whilst Nessbit had to mutter but one word to win the day. Kearney should have stayed home as Adams should have instead of taking part in the VIEW programme last week. Adams admitted on air that the people he represented for so long in West Belfast wouldn`t fear the austerity in the 26 because they have never had anything. So decades of his representation has born no fruit. I call that Ruling by Fooling.
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Meanolgrouch | Jan 20, 2013, 05:15 PM EST
As one visitor on Bill Moyers' PBS show remarked about GOP reaction to their recent presidential election loss: "I never saw so many people look so slapped." Because they thought they couldn't lose and we couldn't win. I expect the same sort of human reaction when Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein suceed in reuniting Ireland into the free state it was meant to be.
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IrelandNorth | Jan 20, 2013, 01:49 PM EST
The Christian postulate: "What ye sow so shall ye reap!" is a very close approximation of the Buddhist law of karma or cause and effect. People who perpetuate a constitutional injustice abdicate the right to hue and cry about the inevitable violence that springs therefrom. But growing older is a moderating influence on everybody. I'm sure the older guard are now pursuing their Irish republicanism as diligently as before, only more cautiously. If younger turks have a surplus of testerone, they could always do a tricolour counter protest at Belfast City Hall, rather than detracting from those who are pursuing a more contemplative considered approach.
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warrenpoint00 | Jan 20, 2013, 01:05 PM EST
Yes Meanoulgrouch I certainly do respect your interference and input in the matter of uniting our country.The Irish Americans have long been an important and helpful source in our objective.,The sentimental ones are those that I believe still have that romantic ideology that this objective can be achieved with bomb and bullet and feel ostracized and lost since the concept of armed struggle was removed.This constant ranting about a shared future by reformed republicans is also unhelpful to our objective when they know and we know that those british loyalist/unionists will never ever share anything with the Irish people.Those that cannot be truthful to their own people certainly cannot be true to our objective and must be categorized as fake.
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Meanolgrouch | Jan 20, 2013, 09:23 AM EST
Dear Warren, yes - Ireland can reunite w/o the help of those you mentioned, including us 'sentimental Irish Americans'. However, I'd request that you not totally discount the occasional bit of help we in the latter group may provide. We're not all JUST sentimental; some of us care fiercely, not necessarily seeking to interfere in Ireland's valid independence, but from family ties and long memories, we can at least cheer you on. After all, the struggle for justice is worldwide and everlasting. I don't want to see Ireland remain split any more than I support America's own rightwing fascists (also known as the American Taliban) succeed in splitting this country apart by attitude or actual fracture.
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warrenpoint00 | Jan 20, 2013, 01:07 AM EST
Sorry Barney...DO,NT
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warrenpoint00 | Jan 20, 2013, 12:43 AM EST
Hello barneyjoe, glad you are back on the forum lad but for some reason I got the feeling that you had not gone too far from it and that you were posting under another name and yo just did not have the balls to respond to the contentious issues posted here.I am Just down the road Barneyjo,e from Warrenpoint near Narrow Water where a blast that changed the path of our nation took place and that is where you might find me in a wee humble house. Now if you beg to differ I might suspect that you are or know the administrator and if you had been following my posts you would have been educated in how we in Ireland will unite our country without unionists/loyalists, fake republicans and sentimental Irish Americans.Just to inform you Barney there are many Irish nationalist,s and Irish republicans in the world , not confined to the city of Belfast that you refer to.
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