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Dan: As I have pointed out time and time again, it is very questionable that the so called Home Rule would have led to real Irish independence. And again as pointed out, even Garrett Fitzgerald acknowledged that some years back. Collins achieved real independence for the 26 counties, and not a talk shop. And I find it offensive this attitude that the Irish should have been good patient boys and girls, and England in her generosity would eventually give the mere Irish their independence. One final point Dan, if revisionism is permissable in Irish history, than why not in the case of WW I. War to end all wars, and right of small nations to be free. What a bunch of nonsense.

Seano - Why don't they favour Plebiscites? BECAUSE PLEBISCITES DO NOT FORM PART OF THE BRITISH CONSTITUTION - That way they don't have to go through endless diversions to fail to get eg the law on abortion in line with ECHR basic law...the US constitution has had 6 amendments since WW2, the Irish 29!!! The Germans ban plebiscites as well...so what's your point?...asked again, and again..

Tell me silly Dan when do the people of england have a plebiscite to enact constitutional law? the answer is never they do not have any rights to alter any law. They are bound by parliamentary changes and they have to like it or lump it.

Regarding the "unwritten constitution," it's interesting that the british are slowly subjecting their own mainland citizens (even though people in the Northern Ireland are supposed to have full and equal citizenship status) to the same types of civil abuses they employ in the occupied statelet.

The notion that Ireland was headed for independence because the british terror state was forced to cede some fundamental human rights to its indigenous inhabitants as the 20th century approached is ludicrous. This is evidenced by the fact that the treaty arguably left Ireland with less rights than a Commmonwealth nation and every inch of freedom had to be asserted rather than ceded voluntarily (see the post treaty trade war, for instance). The british terror state never cedes anything voluntarily where it sees a material interest (witness their disgusting abuse and terrorism of the indigenous population in Kenya, which they later tried to cover up).

The british certainly used alleged German atrocities in Belgium as a primary justification for entering the war - are you saying the british terror state was lying DanO? You're seriously positing that the terror state was not threatened by the fact that Germany was rapidly approaching them in terms of naval power and was beyond them in terms of industrial/military capacity?

"Magna Carta, much of English Common Law eg Habeas Corpus, and customs which taken as a whole makes up a constitution…newly created countries took much of these and sensibly formulated them in one single document" This is silly - none of these things provide any immutable guarantee of the natural rights of ordinary citizens against the central government (habeus corpus never constrained a sovreign from indefinitely detaining someone in the Tower) and none of them articulated natural rights of the individual against government as a premise. The Magna Carta merely reflected a changing power dynamic in england. If anything, the US Constituion was a reaction to the abuse of rights under the british system (with the systemic division of government function being lifted from Montesquieu). It's interesting that rights under the supposed "unwritten constitution" could be suspended at the whim of the government in the occupied statelet.

Seano - you obviously don't understand what a constitution is...buy a good dictionary and read the definition...END

Nitpicking Dan!! They cannot have a written constitution because they do not have a constitution birdbrain. Go back to your mates on Carlisle Square they need you to throw more stones at the PSNI/RUC

seanomelb - Changing your argument I see...you posted on Aug 31, 2012, 08:08 PM, and I quote ‘Britain does not have a constitution’…NO MENTION OF WRITTEN HERE!!

I don’t argue that the Brits entered the war to protect Belgium…like most countries they were motivated by self-interest. On Naval supremacy, they still had the world’s largest navy, and were outbuilding Germany…at hideous cost…no, they could not stand by and see France defeated and become a vassal of the Germans…none of this means that Ireland had no right to independence…and things were moving in that direction anyway…and it’s arguable that the limited Home Rule would have lead to ‘all-Ireland’ independence, just as the Empire morphed into the Commonwealth in later years..

CurtisJ – I don’t argue that Britain has an ‘Unwritten Constitution’…what they have is a series of documents, starting with Magna Carta, much of English Common Law eg Habeas Corpus, and customs which taken as a whole makes up a constitution…newly created countries took much of these and sensibly formulated them in one single document…the influences on the U.S. Constitution are generally accepted…quote ‘most of our American forefathers cherished the English constitution and did not change their opinion of its merits just because Parliament and the ministers of King George III failed to observe some of its provisions.’…more

Britain's "unwritten constitution" LOL. It gives the ruling commercial oligarchs an opportunity to invent a moral pretense for virtually any action - including the progressive introduction of a police state (not a hard thing to do when there are really no fixed "rights" to begin with). Can you cite any serious historians who believe there was a definitive moral highground in WWI DanO? The british terror state entered the war because they were in fear of the loss of naval supremacy (I mean because they really cared about the people of Belgium - LOL; as noted by member of their own government, the black and tans committed many of the atrocities they were accusing Germany of in Belgium). You think the Americans had more of a justification for independence than the Irish, Dano?

Just repeat after me Britain does not have a written constitution moron. You know I'm correct but your pro British little mind cannot grasp it, poor thing.

Oh, Seano…do keep those ‘pearls of wisdom’ coming…some say you’re all p*** and wind, not me... I say you’re not that useful…