Irish feature documentary on sexual abuse in the Catholic Church shortlisted for an Oscar
First hand accounts from the victims document abuse and cover ups
Published Sunday, December 9, 2012, 9:07 AM
Updated Sunday, December 9, 2012, 9:07 AM
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Mortimer74 | Dec 10, 2012, 06:20 PM EST
2TwisttheTruth, people are free to watch any film they want. Or read any book they want. You know, like Kathy's Story for example. Please go ahead and watch the film if you have nothing better to do. There is a wonderful comment on the Amazon site regarding Kathy's Story that says, who cares if it's not true, so long as it's entertaining. So yes, if it's entertaining and provides a little more oxygen for the quickly fading anti-Catholic narrative, then please go ahead and watch it. Don't worry about the truth. The filmmakers didn't.
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eiriamach | Dec 10, 2012, 06:17 PM EST
I see Mortimer wrote four more jaundiced posts, spun out several more insults and gratuitous smears like "infected," and more claims of "bogus." But Mortimer never replied to my challenge about his first claim of "bogus." At Dec 10, 2012, 08:55 AM EST earlier, I asked for specific evidence: "WHERE is the "bogus" in [Goodstein]'s 2010 article, as follows, about the case of Wisconsin priest Lawrence C. Murphy?" Mortimer, you're losing all cred here and becoming tedious in your tirades.
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mairint | Dec 10, 2012, 05:41 PM EST
We see most of the molestation of children and youth that was done under the cover of the church was on boys. It is clear that that was the penchant of the men who entered the seminaries. They simply used the church as a means to an end. That will not be shown however in the stories and accounts which will still make money for their authers. The salacious public devours such material. The more ignorant (and hate mongering) the more lapping up of the anti-Catholic diatribe while the fact that the abuse is just as evil wherever it is committed, within families, in secular or clerical environs, whether hetero or homo, all are wrong. However honesty hinders sensationalism and therefore balance will be evaded. It is a known fact, more abuse happens within families than outside. The use of the cover of clerical status (around which youth should be safe) is repulsive as is the case of the uncle or father or family member who abuses sexually. Children are the victims, many from before they are born.
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2TelltheTRUTH | Dec 10, 2012, 03:57 PM EST
Why Mortimer74, why are you afraid that people will watch the film? People, just see the film and decide for yourselves. I trust the majority will come to the conclusion our church has and continues to deliberately keep much about child sexual abuse hidden in darkness. Yes sunlight is the best disinfectant. Don't take our words for it, just see the film.
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2TelltheTRUTH | Dec 10, 2012, 03:47 PM EST
Mortimer74 why you sound just like Pierre ??? from the media report or perhaps you are Bill Donahue. But that doesn't matter because you really are an apologist for clergy who molest children. You mentioned SNAP, no one else and you directly attacked SNAP leaders. There are 8 other comments besides yours and this is SNAP infested site, so why did you bother to try and sow your misinformation here? The truth will set you free...problem is you are not the one telling it!
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Mortimer74 | Dec 10, 2012, 02:52 PM EST
"But the facts—and the selective way they are dealt with in too much of the mainstream media—do suggest that the story line declaring the Catholic Church a uniquely perverse institution is a LIE; those who perpetrate it are either ignorant BIGOTS, or people with AGENDAS other than the protection of young people, or both." (George Weigel, firstthings website, Dec 5th 2012)
George Weigel is Distinguished Senior Fellow of the Ethics and Public Policy Center in Washington, D.C.
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Mortimer74 | Dec 10, 2012, 02:49 PM EST
“MEA MAXIMA CULPA” IS A FRAUD
Bill Donohue destroys "Mea Maxima Mendacitas" in a recent posting at the Catholic League website. Check it out, my friends, and, remember, the truth will set you free.
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Mortimer74 | Dec 10, 2012, 01:41 PM EST
Warning, folks, this is a SNAP-infested website. The issue of child abuse would appear to be just a pretext for the group’s hatred of the Church. Here's a very recent quote from a claimed abuse victim, on a well-known website: "There are too many of us out in the world who trusted SNAP had our backs, only to be decieved yet again by an institution who claimed they had the victim's best interest at heart....as for the organization itself and its three main leaders – they will never again be able to earn my respect! I have no time for liars!"
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Mortimer74 | Dec 10, 2012, 12:57 PM EST
Oh, wait, there's more. stanJames introduces yet another red herring in a rather bizarre attempt to embellish the "Catholic Church as a dark-and-evil force" loony media caricature. Not the "Hitler's Pope" again? Sorry, also bogus. Do your homework people.
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JuneAnnette | Dec 10, 2012, 12:26 PM EST
eiriamach . . Thanks for setting the record straight and for your concise presentation of the FACTS and your accurate recap of the particulars regarding the case of Wisconsin priest Lawrence C. Murphy. The Roman Catholic Clergy Abuse SCANDAL and the reprehensible cover up of their crimes by the RC "hierarchy" is as murky and convoluted as that of Enron, which Mr. Gibney some years back also exposed in his acclaimed documentary. RC apologists are under the misguided opinion that they have even an ounce of credibility in these matters. The fact is . . the so-called "princes of the church" neither inspire trust nor instill confidence. They are nothing more than con men!
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jim treacy | Dec 10, 2012, 12:21 PM EST
GOD I HOPE THIS FILM WINS AN OSCAR.
I CAN'T WAIT TO READ THE POPE'S FIRST TWITTER AFTER THE STATUE IS PRESENTED
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eiriamach | Dec 10, 2012, 11:05 AM EST
At Dec 10, 2012, 08:55 AM EST, I mis-spelled the author's name, but quoted the now-historical article that Mortimer calls "bogus." It was "Vatican Declined to Defrock U.S. Priest Who Abused Boys," NY Times, Mar 24, 2010, by LAURIE GOODSTEIN. Cardinal Lavada called Goodstein's reporting of facts "attack mode" (See also "Abuse Scandal's Ripples Spread Across Europe," March 25, 2010, and "The New York Times and Pope Benedict XVI," Mar 30, 2010).
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Portia777 | Dec 10, 2012, 10:43 AM EST
Irishphotograph. Patrick= Patriarch and he did not found any church in Eire. We had our own spiritual church with priests and priestesses.We did not have a religion imposed upon us until Roma wanted to destroy and enslave the Irish- for their own good of course.....just like Indigenous Americans etc.The Bible was written by men to suit their own patriarchal agenda. Our equality was a massive issue for Roma and so the female energy of Eire and her people was demonised using the serpent as the symbolism. The serpent river - the Boann still flows and the divine feminine now rises in men and women who remember what it is to be whole/holy
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Irishphotograph | Dec 10, 2012, 09:37 AM EST
Anyone would study the Bible and Irish history. Would know that Roman Catholicism never had a place in Ireland. Rome imposed itself in Ireland and did away with the Celtic Christian church Patrick founded. Learn the history of Romes Spiritual Imperialism.
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