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Bad romance: 10 surprising facts about the Irish and sex


'The most expensive 14 minutes of my life,' says Colin Farrell of the sex tape in which he starred.
'The most expensive 14 minutes of my life,' says Colin Farrell of the sex tape in which he starred.

What is it about the Irish and sex? Pre-Christian Irish attitudes to sex were decidedly more liberal than in recent times, where Cupid was saddled with a chastity belt by an outwardly pious nation. But have times changed? You be the judge. Here are 10 surprising facts about the Irish and sex:

1.  Sexual Equality

Ancient Irish laws, called the Brehon Laws, provided women full equality with men. That’s right, they could inherit property or bequeath their own; they could marry or divorce the man of their choosing; even the right of a woman to experience satisfaction in marriage was enshrined in its legal framework. In Europe, where burning uppity women at the stake became a national pastime, the Irish attitude to sexual equality between the sexes was nothing short of revolutionary. Stamping out of the Brehon Laws, and with them the rights of women, was finally accomplished under Queen Elizabeth of England.


2. The land of sex and sinners

When it came to matters of love Edmund Spencer, the Elizabethan poet, was appalled by Irish men, who were in the main, he wrote, a bunch of lascivious bisexuals who offered themselves freely to both women and men before his shocked gaze. Spencer enthusiastically recommended the extermination of the Irish race but was himself burned out of his famous castle in County Cork.

3. Bad Romance

The Irish much prefer a dramatic finish to a promising start. Think of Diarmuid and Grainne, think of Charles Stewart Parnell and Kitty O’Shea. Most of all think of poor Oscar Wilde. Wilde’s affair to remember will still be passionately discussed by people not yet born. Having married a beautiful but unsuspecting woman before his latent homosexuality became blatant, the real love of his life turned out to be Lord Alfred Douglas, a whey-faced flaxen -haired youth who ruined his life and reputation. In response Wilde did what generations of Irishmen have, he wrote a ballad that has outlived them all.

4. Do You Take This Man?

According to Yale historian John Boswell, the early Christian church in Ireland included widely performed sacraments and marriage rites for men, which means that the first instances of same sex marriages were held in Ireland. Tell that to your bishop the next time he fulminates against the gays.


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The stupid corkman still can't figure out the capslock lol
IF THIS NEWSPAPER WAS PRINTED IN IRELAND AND IF THE REST OF MY FELLOW IRISH COULD READ WHATS PRINTED ON HERE BY AMERICANS THERE WOULD BE ABSOLUTE UPROAR.. I THINK ITS A DISGRACE WHAT THIS NEWSPAPER PRINTS ... AND GIVEN THE INTELIGENCE OF MOST OF WHATS ACROSS THE ATLANTIC IM SURE MOST OF IT IS BELIEVED WHICH IS THE SAD THING ... BUT ONCE THEY COME OVER ON THEIR HOLIDAYS AND SPEND THEIR $$$ THEN WHO ARE WE TO COMPLAIN :-)
Sorry,comrades this machine is acting weird. At least,I guess, I got my point across.
Aaah!It was the Italian men who forced the church on the Irish so they could claim credit as great lovers with out competition.
Aaah!It was the Italian men who forced the church on the Irish so they could claim credit as great lovers with out competition.
Aaah!It was the Italian men who forced the church on the Irish so they could claim credit as great lovers with out competition.
Aaah!It was the Italian men who forced the church on the Irish so they could claim credit as great lovers with out competition.
Aaah!It was the Italian men who forced the church on the Irish so they could claim credit as great lovers with out competition.
Boswell was a homosexual out to reconcile his perversion with Roman Catholic teaching. From Wikipedia: "Rites of so-called 'same-sex union' (Boswell's proposed translation) occur in ancient prayer-books of both the western and eastern churches. They are rites of adelphopoiesis, literally Greek for the making of brothers. Boswell, despite the fact that the rites explicitly state that the union involved in adelphopoiesis is a "spiritual" and not a "carnal" one, argued that these should be regarded as sexual unions similar to marriage."
My very Catholic mother from Ireland used to say in response to comments against homosexuals: "It's their natir (Nature). They have to love according to their nature. And that's enough on that topic." She often said in response to priestly pronouncements: "What do they know? Make up your own mind." Her down-to-earth priest relatives acknowledged that they were skeptical about many church teachings on sex, and endorsed the idea of making up your own mind.
Does anyone here rememeber that the Irish were Pagan for centuries BEFORE Christianity arrived and much of the religious beliefs today are an incorporation of both Pagan and Christian beliefs? People, really???? How can you call yourself knowledgable about being Irish if you don't even know that much about your own history!?!!!!!!
I know the unemployment rate in Ireland today is very high, but by reading some of the above descriptions of Ireland from the past you folks really need to get back to work, you have far to much time on your hands.
Kateomprint: The Muslims only have to say it three times. Join up and save yourself the walk! ~ ~ ~ anybody else interested in ancient Irish attitudes to the power of sexual reproduction should google image "Sheela-na-gig" and see what was removed from roadsides and CHURCH buildings and hidden in the basement of the Dublin Museum. There you will see the real meaning of Hole-y Ireland. Warning: Not for the faint hearted!
I have read about the Brehon laws and they seem to be way ahead to their time. A woman could divorce a man by walking around him three times say "I divorce thee" and the job was done. No lawyers no legal fees. What a great time that must have been.
The Irish were always ahead of their time!




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