The language of love can very, very easily get lost in translation. What may be perfectly acceptable when dating in Ireland can warrant a well-aimed slap in the face in the U.S.
Remember: it was America that invented “dating.” It’s not an Irish concept – but one that has been imported from across the Atlantic.
And even though it’s an American import, the rules for dating in the U.S. differ vastly in many ways than the rules for dating in Ireland.
As such, this brief guide is intended for the Irish male who finds himself at a loss at what to do when dating an American girl.
(We at Irishcentral.com take no responsibility for possible assaults, drinks over the head, etc. that can happen in the application of this guide. Use at your own risk!)
1. Try not to get too drunk
This especially applies when you are on a first date. Although Irish girls are often fairly unimpressed at the sight of their date slurring his words and talking to inanimate objects, in many cases, it is the Irish girl who is even more drunk than her partner for the evening, so this problem can be avoided, and the Irish male doesn’t have to be as careful in not getting too hammered. In general, however, American girls drink far, far less than Irish girls. And they can get pretty disgusted at the sight of their date making a total fool of himself.
This rule is probably the most critical in this guide – but is one that the Irish male typically grapples with the most. Remember: Americans often go on dates that are non-alcohol related – which can involve things such as “cups of coffee” and not going to the pub. The standard response from the Irish male to this activity in this situation might be: But where will my confidence come from?
It must come from within. When the date does take place in a pub or bar, the Irish male should take care to remember that the graph showing the relationship between pints and charm looks like this: it goes upwards initially, levels off after about three or four, and then at about six pints it takes a dramatic nosedive. In other words, it usually takes about six drinks before charm turns into sleaze.
2. Pay for everything
The U.S. may be the birthplace of the modern feminist movement, but when it comes to picking up the tab for drinks and dinner, American females are thoroughly old-fashioned. American girls will inevitably expect you to at least offer to pay for dinner, and if you do offer, most will gladly accept. The same goes for drinks. If you are on a first date, and you don’t offer to foot the bill, don’t expect a second. It doesn’t matter that she is better educated than you, earns more than you and is likely to outlive you. She'll still expect you to pay. That’s just how it is.
4. Play up the accent
If you have a fairly neutral Irish accent, then scrap it quickly – you won’t sound very “Irish” to the American girl you are trying to impress. Go and watch “Darby O’Gill and the Little People,” and try to talk like some of the characters in that movie. Sure, you won’t sound genuinely Irish – simply because no one in Ireland talks like that – but the girl you are on a date with won’t know that, and probably thinks that everyone in Ireland talks like Sean Connery in the 1959 classic.
Throw in a few Irish expressions here and there – even ones we don’t really use, like, “To be sure, To be sure.” Add a few more that you know the girl won’t understand, thus making her curious, playing up your Irishness and impressing her.
5. Think of non-alcohol related date activities
Be creative in where you take her. Remember (as per point one) that Americans are not nearly as pub-centric as Irish people and don’t need alcohol at every social occasion. Take her to an art exhibition and impress her with your knowledge of the early modernist period…
6. Be chivalrous
You don’t have to put your coat over a puddle of water on the sidewalk so she doesn’t wet her shoes, but you do have to hold doors open, pay for drinks (see point two), pull out her chair and so on. As a rule, you can’t go wrong with chivalry with American women.
7. Try not to talk about your mother
Yes, it is hard being away from home and yes, no one makes bacon and cabbage like your mother can, but try to keep these details to yourself. If you go on too much about your mother, you will reconfirm a stereotype that your date probably already has about Irish guys and their mammies. So keep the mum discussion to a minimum. On the other hand, your date may be relieved to hear that your mother has no interest in being her new best friend.
8. Make vague references to a troubled past
Some Americans have a romantic idea of Irish people as inherently troubled. This may make you seem more attractive in the eyes of the American you are pursuing, so play this up. If you had quite an idyllic childhood, then fabricate. Come out with lines like: "I remember the day the soldiers came to the village...They took every last man, woman and child...The screams, I still hear the screams...” before gazing away sadly into the distance. Refuse to elaborate, adding to your mystique.
9. Don't forget where you are from
Your true Irish character might frighten them, but that’s okay. You do not need to pretend you are the personality that they would imagine an Irish person to be. Let your bitterness, begrudgery and down-to-earthiness shine. You might lose her, but you will still be YOU.
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.STEVENSTAR | Feb 17, 2013, 09:08 AM EST
@@@@WarriorPoet | Jan 29, 2012, 11:32 PM EST AND MATE WE DONT TEND TO CALL WOMEN OR GIRLS 'LASSES' EITHER I THINK YOUR GETTING A LITTLE MOXED UP WITH THE SCOTTISH PEOPLE OR ELSE WATCHING TOO MANY HOLLYWOOD MOVIES.. IF YOU CAME TO IRELAND AND CALLED SOMEONE A LASS... YOU'D BE LAUGHED AT ...hahaha!!
STEVENSTAR | Feb 17, 2013, 09:06 AM EST
HAVING TRAVELLED THE WORLD AND HAVING A GOOD EDUCATION AND IM IRISH BORN AND BRED IRISH AND HAVE AN IRISH PASSPORT.. IS IT ANY WONDER ON ALL MY TRAVELS AND MEETIG DIFFERENT NATIONALITIES .. THAT AMERICANS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE THESE SET/ STANDARD STEREOTYPES OF IRISH PEOPLE AND MOST OF US FIND IT REALLY ANNOYING... IT WOULD BE A BIT LIKE ME STEREOTYPING AMERICANS AND SAY THEY ALL ONLY EAT KFC OR MAC DONALDS .. WELL ITS NOT SO... BUT NOW I REALISE WHEN I COME ON HERE AND READ WHATS WRITTEN ABOUT IRISH PEOPLE AND WHAT RUBBISH AMERICANS ARE FED ABOUT US. .... IS IT ANY WONDER WHY THEY HAVE THESE SILLY LITTLE PRECONCEPTIONS ABOUT US .... AND ON THE WHOLE IS IT ANY WONDER WHEN I AM ON MY TRAVELS I TRY AND AVIOD AMERICANS AS I FIND THEM REALLY ANNOYING ... BUT HEY ITS NOT YOUR FAULT ITS WHAT YOUR FED BY YOUR MEDIA ..IF YOU EVER GET THE CHANCE COME OVER TO IRELAND AND MEET SOME REAL IRISH PEOPLE AND YOULL SOON SEE MOST OF US ARE WELL EDUCATED , WELL TRAVELLED AND PRETTY ARTICULATE AND A MILLION MILES AWAY FROM HOW WE ARE PORTRAYED ON HERE...
WarriorPoet | Jan 29, 2012, 11:32 PM EST
As an Irish American who has dated lasses from every content I can tell you that without a doubt this is an Irish list. It starts off saying don't drink but the writers must have been drunk by number 2 because they skipped over number 3 entirely. haha Furthermore, ya Corkshire goons, American women can't all drink but that just means you are with the wrong girl, as any college town can tell you there are plenty~o~gals who will tip the pint back with the best of them. As the saying goes if you can't be with the one you love, drink with the one your with at least until she's in love with you.
ginpoet | Dec 28, 2011, 01:05 PM EST
Ha Ha. Where's #3?
AmericanGirl83 | Sep 25, 2011, 10:11 AM EDT
Not sure what part of America that you've spent your time at but you pretty much described most American men. It is not the just the Irish men, and I think that if you would stop insulting your men, you might have a chance with them. Big deal, if they get drunk, make the best of it. Paying for the tab? Please, American women have been taking men out for years and fronting the bill. Mammy's boys?? Come to the southern part of the U.S, we will show you a Momma's boy, and besides, if they treat their mom well, they will automatically know how to treat a woman. I feel sorry for Irish men when it comes to their own women insulting them.
irishchuisle | May 18, 2011, 01:07 PM EDT
It's AWESOME. And bn an American girl I can truly say "you got that right". Now how's about an article for us American gals who want to date an TRUE Irishman?! I'm looking forward to the knowledge of it. Have a beautiful day!
eileen murphy | May 11, 2011, 07:17 PM EDT
You nailed it!!!!!!!!
stephgwen | May 10, 2011, 07:59 PM EDT
I loved loved loved it.
ShamrockShore | Feb 06, 2011, 09:58 AM EST
No 9 ruined it for me.
allicat4u2 | Dec 07, 2010, 02:55 PM EST
Hopefully this is a joke..."Sound," American women may not like to date a drunk but the rest of this coloum is hogwash...pure BS.
AnimatedBeauty | Nov 12, 2010, 04:49 AM EST
Well first off I have to say Bravo, if this was a joke it certainly made me laugh! I'm from Minnesota in the US. Only a few of those stereotypes I can say are true for myself such as the chivalry and don't be a sleaze on the first date bit- though I admit the irish accent is attractive, I would hate to think that's all he has going for him!
MarthaAnne | Oct 23, 2010, 08:06 PM EDT
Oh, come on! You sound as if you think that we Americans are idiots.
michaelcollins | Jul 27, 2010, 09:59 AM EDT
jaysus christ...i never read such bollix in my life...is this meant to be a joke?
RosieMosie | Jul 23, 2010, 08:05 AM EDT
That is exactly what Irish guys here in Australia try to do. But you don't see us saying "G'day" all the time do you. It's terrible what lengths some people will go to. Luckily Australian women are more sceptical than our Yank counterparts and catch on pretty quick. Dodgy, dodgy men!
murphy66 | May 03, 2010, 10:19 AM EDT
10. Tell her you are committed to oral sex. 11. Prove it.