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Many undocumented Irish are fed up and heading for home

Fear of being arrested trumps hard times in Ireland

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i would,nt let anyone in to ireland for forseeable future,until at least ireland has proper controls in place and being run by someone who is not corrupt. we have,nt got the facilities to accommodate immigrants from that big ole continent of africa and all their relations.americans could add to ireland with knowledge,africa can,t.
It doesn't made how many cards are available. Immigration should bedone the same way by all...legally. Not to do so makes you a criminal teh moment you arrive. I work with immigrants every day and most of them are NOT using legally obtained Tax ID numbers. Thousands may have legitimate tax I.D. numbers, but they are few compared to teh millions who do not. And, I personally know of two men who belong to my parish that have been deported only to show up here again within three weeks. Try, try again, I guess.
Free Cheese.
I'm weary of people saying the undocumented should have emigrated here legally when in fact there are so few legal options, particularly for the Irish who get less than 200 out of 50,000 Green Cards available through the Diversity Visa Lottery each year. If you make a statement like that, please expand on your knowledge of U.S. immigration law and outline the options to work and live here legally. In response to another comment based also on ignorance, thousands of undocumented people living here pay their taxes using a Tax ID acquired in their own name and not necessarily by stealing somebody's SS number. I wish people would know the facts before making such stupid statements.
Legally, I have nearly 100 Filipino relatives here in America and I am proud they are doing what is right in getting here and staying here and truly participating in society to the benefit of that society. Concerning Vargus, they do not need a token criminal to either emulate (for those relatives who still desire to come here) or to overcome the influence of when folk look at even MY relatives, wondering if they are also illegal. If this boy came here illegal and reached the age of majority, then he should go home as soon as he reached that age, and use whatever talents he may have obtained for the benefit of the Philippines. But he stayed here and debouched, practicing homosexuality (no homosexual is that way by genetics, no matter how effeminate [or the opposite for lesbian] they might be) which is a choice and in reality a death style as opposed to a life style. Mamaginnty, he is no longer 12 years old. He has no credibility and he is a drain on our current immigration system. Most immigrants coming here legally are great people, eager for entrepreneurial experience, and are grateful, and you have to go into their descendents several generation deep to eventually begin to see the sense of entitlement and laziness when these find poor companions, having been doted upon to the point of being spoiled rotten.
I've always been for expanding the Immigration to correctly record, check medical and background history, and welcome more legal immigrants into the country. Hopefully, something will be done in the not too distant future so Illegals who have moved back to their own country can try and enter legally with respect for our laws.
G.DILLON, bad post, this story is about undocumented people in America, but no, you cannot comment on the country you live in, no you always, any chance you can get, run down Ireland and the irish, don't you care about the country you live in, just leave Ireland alone, I cannot count how many people on this site have told you the same. I am glad these people are coming back to the homeland. PHaeniUS, why pick on one person, he was 12 years old for god sake.
Teador, you said illegals who don't have a rap sheet and have been working here and paying taxes should be allowed citizenship. If these "illegals" have been paying taxes, they are using SOMEONE'S social security # illegally. That is identity theft. Those wages were paid using a stolen soc sec #. Say the REAL owner of the # earned $50,000 and the "illegal" using the stolen # earned $30,000, then that LEGAL is reported to IRS as earning a total of $80K. The Legal has to hire attorney and PROVE they didn't work 40 hr week in AZ as a female paralegal while simultaneously working as as a male ditch digger in NJ. The "illegal" filed a false IRS return which is a felony. Why would you say they should get considered for citizenship? There are illegals using soc sec numbers stolen for infants. They pay taxes and also destroy credit for that soc sec #. How in your opinion is identity theft not a serious crime? UNDOCUMENTED people have NO way to legally work and pay taxes. They STEAL your identity and gladly pay a few dollars taxes to get employment. IDENTITY THEFT IS A CRIME
good luck to them and wishes for a happy homecoming.
This is clearly a 'goose and gander' analogy. But as you can see there is more sympathy for the lads and lasses from the Emerald Isle working in Boston or New York air-conditioned offices, than for Juan and Juanita picking strawberries in the Central Valley today in 106 degree temps.
"Undocumented" is a softer word for "illegal". I admire those that have openly stated and acknowledged that they are here illegally. It is integrity like that should be taken into consideration when treating immigrants in our post-911 world.
The illegal immigrants from Ireland who've been in the USA for 14 years have not applied for U.S. citizen because American law forbids them to as they entered the USA illegally. Yes, as a rule, Irish immigrants pay their way but we cannot say, yes, we will allow in all the Irish, Brits, Scots, etc., but keep Latinos and Africans out. I have asked my Irish cousins, all of whom own property and have jobs in Eire, to tell their friends the USA is unwelcoming to illegals of any nationality.
Teadoir: Good post. A lot of what you say applies to Ireland also. One difference is that the problem over there isn't with "illegals", since Ireland makes pretty much everyone legal. But right now there is a big crime wave with immigrants. Just a couple from this week's news: A Polish guy convicted of raping a woman, an Indian guy accused of drugging and raping two women, a woman from Togoland (now what the hell is she doing in Ireland) accused of throwing boiling oil on a cop who went to her (rent-subsidized) home to break up a fight she was having with her lover. Plus the usual Chinese and Vietnamese drug pushers, Roma shoplifters Etc. Etc. One in three inmates in Irish jails is a foreigner, and the way it's going, it looks like there'll be no room for the Irish in their own jails!
We need immigration reform in this country to document people who are trying to contribute to our society and make a better life for their families. I recently had a friend whose daughter was murdered by an illegal from Columbia living in Atlanta, turns out his dad who assisted in burning her in the trunk of her car......He had a long rap sheet in Columbia and is a known drug dealer in Atlanta, of course the authorities didn't know this because he entered illegally and was UNDOCUMENTED along with marrying a US Citizen (while his existing wife was back in Columbia) to try and fraud the system..... Most of our issues along with the drug problems are coming from South of the border, not the Irish coming thru NY and Canada.... The Latino gangs are putting people on planes to the US so building bigger walls on the border isn't going to help or sending them back once we catch them.....If you enter the country illegally and have a rap sheet we should brand you and your accomplices forehead with the words ILLEGAL CRIMINAL so everyone can identify you when crossing the border again, if you don't have a rap sheet have been paying taxes while here illegally we should grant clemency and swear you in as citizen immediately after the background checks clear.....
they are not undocumented, they are illegal. they need to go back. 14 years and no green card and no citizenship. So sorry, to bad, My grandparents ( all four) came through Ellis Island, and worked to get their citizenship. Are you telling us that today's Irish aren't as hard working as my grand parents?
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