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The Irish in Obama



“It was a characteristic of Protestant emigration that it was looked at enthusiastically in the U.S., which contrasts sharply with the Catholic experience. If you look at the folk memory of the Catholic Irish there’s a great deal of despair and negativity at the whole notion of emigrating,” MacDonogh says.

When the Kearneys arrived in America they simply did not face the discrimination or the hostility that their Catholic neighbors did.
“What fascinated me is that I had never heard this story told in an Irish context. Like most people I had bought into the narrative of the post-Famine experience,” says MacDonogh.

“But the truth is the majority of Irish Americans are of Protestant ancestry rather than Catholic ancestry. And they found themselves being swiftly absorbed into mainstream American life.”

The Kearney family may have had a well-off branch. One of their people was the Bishop of Ossory in Co. Kilkenny, but most of them were shoemakers and wigmakers. When that industry began to falter due to the mass return of the upper classes to Britain in the early 1800s they made the decision to emigrate.

“Obama was unconscious of being Irish when he was growing up,” says MacDonogh. “That’s one way in which he’s characteristic of the Protestant Irish in America in that he’s not so concerned with his Irish background.

“And also in his career he hasn’t played sectarian politics in that way. Many politicians have milked ethnicities for votes, but I don’t think Obama has that view of politics or wants to be involved in playing one sector off another. He didn’t grow up with any consciousness of his Irish background at all.”

Pursuing his research here, MacDonogh discovered that many Americans still don’t share Obama’s rather open-ended view of who is and who is not an American, though.

“When I was in Kansas and Indiana and Ohio I made a point of talking to ordinary people in bars and cafes and wherever I found them. I must say that almost all of the white people I met in these places were almost all in shock that they had a president with a black face,” he says.

MacDonogh is reluctant to call people names partly because he thinks it’s inaccurate as well as being impolite, but right wing American opinion, he says, is informed by racism more than any other characteristic.

“It doesn’t mean that every individual is racist, but conservatism tends to suggest that if you’re not white you’re less American,” MacDonogh says.
“The greatest blight on America is the history of racism and slavery. That’s the historic baggage it carries with it. Even to this day you have golf courses whose history is associated with thorough antagonism to people who are not white.


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I live in America. There is more racism now than before Obama was elected. The country is divided more than ever on issues. The health care issue. Terrorism. Everything. Look how they are treating people at the airports with the scanning and patdowns. Instead of hope and change it is grope and change. And instead of date rape it is now gate rape. Things are worse than they have ever been. More racism. One black woman shoved a white woman into a wall because she expressed her views on Obama.
Dont tell me. His name is really O'bama.
Irish And Proud, you seem so angry. Everyone has a right to their opinion, just like you. Tog bog e! We all have much more in common here than we are different. We all care about what's happening in the world, if we didn't we wouldn't comment about it.
Searlit it's difficult to have discourse with people who's raison d'etre is to vilify. A case in point is the below phrase "bottom feeders" when I told an Aussie joke and now taken out of context. I believe the racist and bigots must still be held to account.
searlit, do you mean name-callers like hollabackgurl, who called certain people 'birthers' and 'bottom feeders?'
seanomelbourne: You're a brave soul to keep fending off these name callers.
Monsoonman, this whole article is about trying to identify Irish things with Obama (only a part of his white half which, let's just say, was not exactly the half which was emphasized whilst he was running for President...and is clearly not the half he identifies with -- or is identified with -- to this day), because the author still somehow fancies Obama to be a popular individual in the USA. Most people nowadays are running FROM him, not TO him(not the least of whom are members of his own party, up for re-election)...and couldn't care less about some distant ancestors he doesn't even identify with, and a nation (Ireland) he knows little if anything about. He didn't even recognize the Irish accent, when he heard it; he had to ask where the young lady was from. Articles like this are flatly embarrassing. Obama's magic is gone, and everyone's running from him. His party is in deep, deep sh-t.
Monsoonman most polls(including Rasmussen)state that 20% of Americans are in denial of Obama's birthplace the also state that this 20% of Americans are GOP supporters.Most polls show that 40% of Americans vote republican.Therefore 50% of Republicans are birthers.
The same could be said about you, hollabackgurl, from your extreme left side of the aisle. You're less mainstream than the birthers, since fewer Americans self-identify as liberal than who believe Obama was foreign-born.
These Birther bottom feeders are a disgrace to the nation. Even Ann Coulter thinks you're retarded.
Born barry sotoro, chance your name to barack huessien obama. All good Cristians change thier names to muslim/arab names. All good Cristians pay millions in lawyer fees to hide thier history. All good Christians go to church were the minister said God damn America. Give me a break!!
As I watched the inauguration of our president, I was moved to tears by the significance of the event--the fact that we had finally arrived, I thought, to the point of being color blind and seeing him as the most qualified and best person to be president. It was an incredible sight to behold this part of our country and I was very proud. Because I live in a part of the South I find myself being a minority and to some extent being looked down on because of my political opinions. Evidently being a Democrat is grounds for contempt in this part of the world. I feel sad that this is the situation here. President Obama is probably the most American of any of us and certainly equiped intellectually and in all other ways to do what is right for our country and the rest of the world where we still have influence.
Lad: You need to adjust your logic compass a bit, it is off due to precession...How do you come up with these figures? 40% of the GOP cast aspersions on his ethnicity? Please back that one up, I need to see its source, because more and more blacks are now joining the GOP and are running for office in the GOP party, fer cryin out loud lad, the chairman of the gop is a black man....Sum-ting-wong lad...Someones got some corrupted info....Maybe it gets discombobulated traveling all of the way "down there" and then traveling all of the way back up here? Exactly where do you get your info?
Monsoonman you may not care what is origins are and you have every right to have an opposing political opinion my comments were not of a personal nature. How do you account for the 40%(approx) of the GOP who do cast aspersions at his ethnicity,place of birth or denying his Christianity? I find it incredulous that so many of them are so bitter. It's as if America woke up from a slumber one day and collectively said "my God we voted for a black man" "what do we do now " "I know let's vilify him and drive him from office" Now we can return to the old status quo. Drive a chevvy to the levy and all that jazz.
Sean me boy....I detest obama, not because of the color of his skin, but because of the color of his politics. If he were a whiteman I would have the exact same feelings for him. Because he is a negro makes no difference to me.




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