Nazi plans to invade Ireland revealed
Published Thursday, July 1, 2010, 5:54 PM
Updated Thursday, July 1, 2010, 5:54 PM
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seanomelbourne | Jul 02, 2010, 07:34 PM EDT
anyone who quotes Wikipedia as a sole source of information
is mentally moribund.
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Rebelforce | Jul 02, 2010, 04:07 PM EDT
It's well known that Hitler was interested in "lebensraum" in Eastern Europe. He had no interest in taking over Britain or Ireland.
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Mike Vaupel | Jul 02, 2010, 01:14 PM EDT
Scarry stuff.
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shuvonn | Jul 02, 2010, 09:15 AM EDT
Hmm, Someone has been quoting DIRECTLY from Wikipedia and not citing sources?
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seanomelbourne | Jul 02, 2010, 08:31 AM EDT
You just choose to miss the point and take (what you perceive) to be the high moral ground, evil is evil regardless of who the perpetrator is, your making it a Jewish versus Cromwell game as if it were a world cup on who can score the most evil points. maybe you would like to list a top ten of "most evil" again I reiterate,PUERILE. Maybe you would like to wash the feet of Israeli child killers in Palestine or are they immune from blame.If the dead could talk maybe you could ask them who tops their list of "most evil" The killers who took their life or Cromwell/Hitler/Franco or any other of your right wing hero's.
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IrishAndProud | Jul 02, 2010, 04:43 AM EDT
Yes, sean...you DID take a cheap shot. And neither have I 'laid off' this point of discussion. I've been discussing it almost solely, for the last several posts, now. As usual, just read them. When you say I haven't been 'sticking to it' (as if you're in charge of making the rules, anyway, which you are not), then either you're being dishonest, or you're functionally illiterate. Cromwell: brute, who murdered Catholic Irish people (including very possibly some of my own distant relatives) as he put down Irish rebellion against British rule. Then, he left. Hitler: racist murderer, who preached German Aryan supremacy and whipped an entire nation into fanatical support, and who sought to exterminate entire RACES of people (Slavs, Gypsies, and most especially Jews) and who set up an entire government (and puppet governments) that systematically purged all non-Aryans and/or rebellion from their societies, rounded them up into concentration camps, and meticulously and ruthlessly tortured, starved and worked nearly 10 million people to death (those that weren't butchered initially as the German army advanced)...even denying his own army desperately-needed supplies as the war neared it end, because he was using them to kill as many Jews as possible before he himself fell from power. You do the math. On sheer scale and intent (as I've already mentioned) Hitler was WORSE than Cromwell. And as I've also said, a rather noteable present-day lack of sympathy for Jews can flavor one's opinion, otherwise. We could go on ad infinitum (nauseum?) about this, but it won't change any minds. This discussion is pointless. Hitler was WORSE than Cromwell, by light-years.
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Sparklet | Jul 02, 2010, 03:56 AM EDT
Wish you could edit these posts! I meant to put Cromwells were,not Cromwell's there!
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Sparklet | Jul 02, 2010, 03:55 AM EDT
Hitler's motivations weren't religious. Cromwell's there. That doesn't make his actions any better than Hitler's but he believed he was doing the work of God in the same way that religious extremists do today. What they do is totally wrong, but if they're so religious that they believe they have to do something on God's behalf, does that make them less evil? And there was a lot of difference between men's attitudes 300 years ago and the 1900s. In theory, Hitler should have been more civilised than Cromwell due to natural progression.
The acts of both men were equally abhorrent and evil. I'm just not sure that Cromwell, wrong as he may have been, was actually evil at heart.
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seanomelbourne | Jul 02, 2010, 12:41 AM EDT
I did not have a cheap shot,I would like you to condemn the premise of my argument and quit laying off the point of discussion, Hitler /Cromwell no difference. one starved people to death the other beheaded or "hung drawn and quartered" his enemies. "Hitler was worse than Cromwell" what a puerile argument, schoolyard stuff.
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irishwxman | Jul 01, 2010, 08:06 PM EDT
Controversially, and against the advice of some advisers, De Valera formally offered his condolences to the German Minister in Dublin on the death of Hitler in 1945, in accordance with diplomatic protocol. This did some damage to Ireland, particularly in the United States - and soon afterward De Valera had a bitter exchange of words with Winston Churchill in two famous radio addresses after the end of the war in Europe.
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irishwxman | Jul 01, 2010, 08:04 PM EDT
Shuvonn you are a flat out R-Tard. No other way to state that.
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IrishAndProud | Jul 01, 2010, 07:02 PM EDT
Thanks, sparklet...but sean knows that, already. He's merely taking a very predictable cheap shot simply because we've disagreed on other posts and he thought he had an opening on me, with this. It's pretty silly and and he's not changing any minds or helping himself, in the process...so don't let it bother you; I'm quite used to it. You put up with cheap shots sometimes, from the usual suspects, when you voice an opinion or take a stand on these posts or anywhere else, really. It's perfectly normal. And citizen69...I would be inclined to agree with you (in a more general sense, at the very least), because as I've already said peoples' views of the Jews and of Israel will inevitably and undeniably affect their views of how bad the Holocaust was in relation to all else.
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chaireland | Jul 01, 2010, 01:55 PM EDT
i feel embaressed for daniel o carrol and this article.to compare what happened with hoths 4 army in poland and what would happen in ireland is idiotic given that the germans thought of the poles and czechs as slavic inferior people.as a celtic people we would have been treated in the same way as denmark or norway with an intact irish government.the proposed irish gauleiter would have been native irishman sean russell .quote.;historien john .p.duggan; . the i.r.a who were in constant contact with the germans aboout the practicality of a bombing campagn of british facilities in the north so to say the germans would crackdown on the gaa is laughable.for some real insight into this period in ireland readthe life of adolf mahr dublin nazi no1 by gerry mullins at least its a read with good hard facts
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citizen69 | Jul 01, 2010, 12:13 PM EDT
Incredibly it sounds like there are a couple of Nazi sympathizers posting on here.
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