65 Comments

• seanomelbourne | Nov 30, 2011, 05:59 PM EST

  Maybe we should oust all Irish of celtic/viking/British origins and have a real purification what do you think georgy boy and asleep 32. I have a book in my library called "uncommon common sense" try purchasing it and a dictionary (which you no doubt need)it makes interesting reading.

• kinvara7 | Nov 29, 2011, 03:52 PM EST

  George: I note that you did not cite a source for the figure you gave earlier, as I asked. I also noted that you did not explain or define what an ethnic Irish person is. If you are talking about protecting Ireland from ‘ethnosuicide’ it is reasonable to ask you to define what it is you believe you must protect. So answer that question and stop trying to avoid it. It is possible to have a debate on immigration, however if you want to develop that debate with inflammatory language, false or selective data, and a complete avoidance of legal obligations and realities, then that debate won’t have much merit. Indeed it is obvious to me that you are just a fear spreader who is happy to whip up the pointless prejudices of others. Why don’t you tell us what you think the wording of such a vote should be? We will talk more about that issue when you answer that. The third question is: could you list the aspects of Irish culture that have disappeared as a result of immigration? Finally, what do you say to people who believe that black Irish citizens should not have the right to vote, or be buried in Ireland? Those were comments made by posters below –did you report them?

• seanomelbourne | Nov 27, 2011, 05:05 PM EST

  The racist bigot georgy boy is crying wolf.Did I hurt your feelings little man or have you some crisises of conscience. Did the analogy of the gas chamber hurt your feelings and those of your coterie of bigots on this site.BTW the Aussie health services are brilliant.Maybe you could avail youself of some treatment to rid your mind of your "racist(isis)" and "bigot(isis)" Ta Bron orm ar do fhocal mhalatach.

• GeorgeDillon | Nov 27, 2011, 02:49 AM EST

  seanomelbourbne: I have once again reported a post by you (below) for hate speech. I have no confidence that you will be banned, however, as you have been permitted to post violent and hate-filled comments unchallenged for many months now. I have heard that the Australian medical system is quite good--why not avail of it for a comprehensive physical and psychiatric check-up?

• seanomelbourne | Nov 26, 2011, 06:04 PM EST

  awoken32/george the nut and nasty little jimmy should build a gas chamber and rid Ireland of all those they do not like.you're a bunch of smallminded throwbacks. I suppose your arms drag along the ground.awoken32 I dislike castigating morons on their spelling and grammar(after all none of us are purfect)you really need a spell check on your apple2c.With your feeble brain a few kilobytes of memory would suffice.

• jimmy12003 | Nov 26, 2011, 05:03 PM EST

  yes! they should say no to them all! put them back on the bannana boat they probably stole to get over here and send them of! because the useless cu-nts wont do anything different here than they do bu-mming around any other country! just live on benifits and breed more useless cu-nts!

• awoken32 | Nov 26, 2011, 12:35 PM EST

  seanof melbourne read from the same hymn sheet as the so-called anti facist movements supported an funded by the political elite,when infact the irony is they are the real facists,they always try to stifle the indiginus populatio right to freedom of speech,they are the minority,they are the indocturnated,they are the sheeple,they are the politically correct,they are the enemy of common sence,i dont hate them because of there ignorance,they really beleive that they are good people,thats there driven force behind there backword way of thinking,but they know in their hearts of hearts,they are the minority for a reason,the reason is a question they have to find out for themselves,ill do ye a favour sean an give you a hint,ITS CALLED BEING REAL AN FREE THINK IT LOL

• awoken32 | Nov 26, 2011, 12:27 PM EST

  i second that georgedillon,TOTAL ANTI WHITE,EVEN THE NAME SIRPETER STINKS OF IMPERIALISM

• GeorgeDillon | Nov 26, 2011, 02:23 AM EST

  "white faced Nazi Hun"--I have once more complained to this site about the bigoted slime that pours out of CurPeter. Racist vermin.

• sirpeter | Nov 25, 2011, 08:40 PM EST

  Wow!!Racism is alive and well.Been white and living in Ireland what's wrong with the blacks?They seem to be the same as everyone else.The problem with the Kildare mayor is he doesn't understand that in Africa you have to shout to be heard or you get nothing.It's just their culture.If he was firm and said Fu*k off and it's not because your black it's because you are not entitled to it.The black person would not be insulted.The black person would just be angry he/she didn't get what they wanted.But it isn't personnel.It's just the way they act.Example*Take Georgie Boy Dillion.He never uses swear words in his comments.He complains about swear words.BUT he's an insulting racist idiot at the same time.Anyway I hope all the blacks rise up and stab ye racists in the eyes with a spoon so it will hurt more.Is this Irish America?It's white guys drove your forefathers out of Ireland not the blacks.The blacks aren't a threat to Ireland ye idiots.The white faced Nazi Hun is taken over Europe and my country along with it and ye are arguing about a few harmless black people.

• seanomelbourne | Nov 25, 2011, 04:55 PM EST

  awoken32 and the other racists posting below read from the same hymn book as the BNP and other European neo-fascists organisations. Crawl back under the rocks from whence ye came you bunch of neantherdals.

• GeorgeDillon | Nov 25, 2011, 01:44 PM EST

  Ballyhip: That word ethnosuicide cannot refer to the United States. Black folks have been here longer than Irish, for example. Most importation of Africans took place in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. Irish immigration began around the mid 18th century. Black Americans have more right to be here than Irish Americans. In fact African Americans have a longer presence here than Irish-Americans, Italians, Germans, Swedes, Jews etc etc. And some Hispanics have been in what is now the United States since the 16th century (New Mexico, Arizona). The American situation is totally different from the Irish. We are a vast country in which the native peoples were destroyed or subjugated. Ireland is a small country which is already inhabited--the native people are not subjugated, but they are committing ethnosuicide at the behest of their ruling class. Why should Ireland be importing foreign migrants? It's senseless. The fascists like kinvara can't give a logical justification for it. No one can--it's madness!

• ballyhip | Nov 25, 2011, 10:20 AM EST

  "Ethno-suicide"? Interesting word gaining credence through its repeated use in countries like Norway and Germany that carry the believe that they are losing control of their culture. Is it reversible? Probably not. In the US, whites will be a minority by 2050 according to the Census Bureau. Some anthropoligist believe that in 200 years the predominate human complexion will be "brown". The real challenge is how to reconcile our concepts of exceptionalism with a with a world that exists without physical or communication boundaries.

• GeorgeDillon | Nov 25, 2011, 09:42 AM EST

  kinvara, a stupid bigot like you doesn't get to define what I know or don't know of Irish culture. You must be a lunatic if you think I'm going to "prove" myself to a bigoted fool such as you. Crawl back into that dark racist corner you inhabit.

• GeorgeDillon | Nov 25, 2011, 09:38 AM EST

  awoken32: "the injustice which has been forced on our people". That's the nub of it, Mass Immigration was forced on the Irish people. They were never given a voice on whether to open up their country to vast numbers of foreign migrants or not. If there had been a vote, and the majority said "Sure, let's have our country settled by foreigners, to such a point that Irish people will be a small minority in the center of their own capital city" I would think it a foolish decision but I would respect it. But the only time the Irish were allowed a vote on anything related to Mass Immigration, in, I think 2003, they voted overwhelmingly to try to stop the abuse of Irish hospitality by foreign fraudsters. Looking back on that vote, it's clear that the Irish state did not act on the people's mandate. Mass Immigration continues, even though young Irish people are forced to abandon their country. As to kinvara, don't be an utter fool. The mantra "let's have a debate on immigration but not this one" is the fraud that I've heard on several occasions in Ireland. The fact is that the Irish parliament hasn't had ONE minute of debate on Mass Immigration in the decade or two that Ireland has been under siege. Right-wingers, centrists and pseudo-leftists (e.g Sinn Fein) unite to stifle the expression of the people's view. The same blanket suppression of debate applies on Irish radio, TV and the newspapers. That's why I post on this topic--if Irish democracy were functioning I'd find a lot better things to do than trying to alert Irish America to the ethnosuicide under way in the land of their ancestors.

• awoken32 | Nov 25, 2011, 08:01 AM EST

  kinvara the odd one out is you,as everyone stands up fot their own people in my question except the politically correct(politically wrong) braimwashed sheeple that is you,you stand up for the irish peoples warmth an kindness lol,dont take kindness for follishness,yes as a nation ireland is a good country with a charitable spirit,but that does not mean we are to be abused an mass invaded our culture an indiginus people ruined an diluted,you do not represent the irish people you represent the political correctness that is destroying cultures,simply put if the irish get to vote on the matter you would in tiny minority in comparison to the majority of irish people who can clearly see the injustice which is been forced on our people an moreover,the type of future we are leaving our children,you worry about the illegal mass immigration on this country an fight for it to continiue,i worry about the future of my country under this assault on the very existance of our culture/identidy

• IrelandNorth | Nov 25, 2011, 06:44 AM EST

  Freedom of speech was a hard won fundamental human right. He's entitled to recount his experiences of his constituency. The trouble with political correctness is that it's political censorship by the back door, a new form of secular dogma with which to muzzle the faithful.

• awoken32 | Nov 25, 2011, 06:37 AM EST

  seanomelbourne a proud dubliner lol,i dont hear you speak up for your fellow dubliners or felloow irsh,your all about standing up for the illegal invasion of this country,i tell you one thing the majority irish people would not be proud of you as being irish,your a turncoat

• kinvara7 | Nov 25, 2011, 04:45 AM EST

  George: Could you point out where I am ‘lying’. Could you tell us where you get the figure of 1000 migrants every week? You have sought to misrepresent me on a number of matters, but that is nothing new as you find it easier to argue against those misrepresentations. It is Awoken who doesn’t believe Black Irish citizens should vote in such an election, are you going to admonish him for that view? George you talk a great deal about culture but on the numerous times we have spoken about Irish culture, it has become painfully clear that you are ignorant of that which you presume to be a protector of. You talk about ‘ethnosuicide’ well could you explain to us what an ethnic Irish person is? Don’t avoid that question, George, as you have a habit of doing that. @Awoken: You said ‘YOU KEEP SATNDING UP FOR THE IMMIGRANTS,I KEEP STANDING UP FOR THE INDIGINUS,THE IMMIGRANTS KEEP STANDING UP FOR THE IMMIGRANTS,WHO IS THE ODD ONE OUT HERE?’…. Well, I guess you are the odd one out. However, for the record, what I am standing up for is what is best about the Irish character. I am trying to remind people that Irish culture has evolved over millennia, and it is a living thing; it is not set in stone. The idealized Irish character is one of kindness and decency (cineáltas agus cuibheas), it is derived from nurture rather than nature and it fuels our unique perspective on the world and life, and that is what we must promote and protect, not our ‘ethnic purity’ as some of you speak of. To have a debate about immigration is fine, but to let it descend into bigotry is not.

• timbobdennehy | Nov 25, 2011, 03:58 AM EST

  once their sent home to africa when they die i dont care,should,nt be buried in irish graveyards.

• seanomelbourne | Nov 24, 2011, 05:36 PM EST

  awoken32 you sure like arguing with yourself, you condemn africans living in Ireland and use as a stupid analogy the population of Nigeria as a comparison Then you condone the white takeover of South Africa as legitimate and the ANC are somehow subhuman.I can see under your veil and look into the bigotry and hate in your heart.I am proud to be a Dubliner and love my country's heritage,The difference between you and I is your a bigotted racist and I'm not.I suppose the great black footballer Paul McGrath was somehow less Irish than you because of the colour of his skin.I was in a Manila restaurant in 1988 and the Phillipino pianist played "Kevin Barry" should I have condemned him and beckoned on him to stop because of the colour of his skin? Go have a jar with the rest of the bigots on this site and leave the world to us humanists

• awoken32 | Nov 24, 2011, 01:15 PM EST

  SURVIVAL OF THE CULTURE AN THE MAJORITY OF INDIGINUS IRISG MUST BE MAINTAINED AT ALL COSTS

• GeorgeDillon | Nov 24, 2011, 01:00 PM EST

  Where to begin with our resident garbageman kinvara. First, he is lying again about the rate of immigration to Ireland. The fact is that this year, like last, there'll be about 70.000 foreigners getting their new PS number, the rough equivalent of our Social Security number. That's more than a thousand migrants streaming into Ireland every week! That would be the equivalent of say 75000 legal immigrants arriving here every week! This at a time when young Irish men and women are abandoning their country to seek work elsewhere. All the opponents of Mass Immigration to Ireland ask is that the democratic deficit be rectified, by allowing for a vote of Irish people on the topic. Why has this been denied? I'll ignore kinvara's utterly stupid reference to Black Irish citizens not being allowed vote. If they are duly eligible to vote of course they should be given the chance. What a dope you are. But kinvara is actually right on one thing. People in Ireland never acquiesced to Mass Immigration, even when the Irish economy was strong. That's because while the evil of Mass Immigration becomes clearer when the economy is bad, at bottom it's not an economic thing. Mass Immigration poses a cultural problem--why should a nation give away its culture in its own ancient homeland? We've seen what happens to people who lose their homeland--Native Americans, Polynesians, the Chamorro of Guam, the Palestinians etc. A country cannot import 25% foreigners in scarcely a decade and remain itself. It's ethnosuicide, and the majority of Irish people don't want to kill their own nation.

• awoken32 | Nov 24, 2011, 12:55 PM EST

  IRELAND FOR THE IRISH AN THATS THAT,YEH AN I MEAN THE WHITE INDIGINUS IRISH,MASS IMMIRATION NEVER HAD A MANDATE,IT IS ILLEGAL NAD THE MAJORITY OF THE INDIGINUS IRISH PEOPLE DO NOT WANT IT,IF A PERSON IS FLEEING PERSECUTION HE OR SHE HAS TO GO TO THE NEAREST SAVE HAVEN TO THEIR COUNTRIES BORDER AN NOT TRAVEL THE WHOLE OF EUROPE TO INVADE IRELAND,NAME ONE COUNTRY MULTICULTURE HAS WORKED?NAME ONE COUNTRY THAT THE INDIGINUS PEOPLE HAD A VOTE ON IT,AND AS CRIME GOES EVERY COUNTRY HAS ITS FAIR SHARE OF INDIGINUS PEOPLE COMMITING CRIME,THAT DOES NOT MEAN WE IMPORT CRIME FROM EVERY CORNER OF THE WORLD,JUST LOOK AT MOORE STREET CITY CENTRE DUBLIN,NIGERIAN SHOPS ALL OVER IT,WALK INTO ANY OF THOSE SHOPS AN THERE IS NOTHING FOR SALE IN THEM,THEY ARE FRONT FOR ORGANISED DRUG AN FRAUD GANGS,LOOK AT LONDON,THE COCKNEYS ARE A MINORITY IN THERE OWN COUNTRY BECAUSE OF UNBRIDLED MASS INVASIONS,LOOK AT FRANCE AN THE PROBLEMS THERE,LOOK AT SWEDEN NORWAY THE LIST GOES ON AN ON,MULTICULTURE FORCED DOES NOT WORK AT THIS TIME IN HISTORY,AND MORE IMPORTANTLY ITS ILLEGAL AN IMMORAL,YOU KEEP SATNDING UP FOR THE IMMIGRANTS,I KEEP STANDING UP FOR THE INDIGINUS,THE IMMIGRANTS KEEP STANDING UP FOR THE IMMIGRANTS,WHO IS THE ODD ONE OUT HERE? AN AS FOR THE HORSE OF TROY IT IS A METAPHOR OF WHAT MASS IMMIGRATION IS,WAR CAN BE WAGED MILITARILIY OF THROUGH THEM WOMB,SERIOUSLY MAN YOU ARE SO BUSY WITH YOUR INDOCTURNATED BELEIVE THAT MASS IMMIGRATION IS CORRECT,WHEN ALL THE EVIDENCE TELL YOU ITS NOT,IT COULDNT BE MORE WRONG,AN STILL YOU CLING ONTO THE NOTION THAT EVERYTHING IS ROSY AN THE WORLD IS GREAT WHEN THE WORD INDIGINUS BECOMES EXTINCTION

• kinvara7 | Nov 24, 2011, 11:28 AM EST

  Where to begin? Look I just pointed out that we are the product of many different peoples and cultures, and you agreed with me; that people coming to Ireland is nothing new, so why is it different now? You say that ‘the world is not some little plyground with everyone loving each other’ [sic] and I agree with you, but what is your solution? That groups of children should stay in separate playgrounds? Would everything be lovely then, Awoken? I don’t think so. Didn’t Ireland have crime and social problems before the immigrants arrived? You say that ‘we as a human race are not ready for that yet,obviously or we would be there already wouldnt we?’ [sic] I don’t really understand what you are saying. Sure we have to begin before we get ‘there’ as you put it. You say that freedom and survival is never a given. Well survival of what? You say that indigenous Irish people should be allowed vote on it, so I take it you don’t think that Black Irish citizens should have a vote on it? Finally, you say that ‘the word indiginus shoulsd be took out of the dictionary’ [sic]. Oh no, please do go over to the dictionary and take the word indigenous out of it! I know that was a cheap shot, but we can call it even after you accused me of varnishing the Horse of Troy or something.

• awoken32 | Nov 24, 2011, 10:46 AM EST

  Kinvara how dare you say that there is know indiginus irish,yes you are correct about the invasions of ireland back in the time,but every country has a history of invasion,that does not mean that the word indiginus shoulsd be took out of the dictionary,as in your argument there is no people that are indiginus to any country,listen the world is not some little plyground with everyone loving each other and each others cultures,as you seem to think,i wish it was but the fact is,we as a human race are not ready for that yet,obviously or we would be there already wouldnt we?freedom an survival is never a given,end of the day the INDIGINUS PEOPLE OF IRELAND SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE ON IT,AS WE THE PEOPLE OWN THIS COUNTRY,YOU KINVARA WOULD NOT ONLY HAVE ACCEPTED THE HORSE OF TROY YOU WOULD HAVE VARNISHRD IT,YOUR TO BUST TRYING TO BE NICE RATHER THAN BEEN REAL

• kinvara7 | Nov 24, 2011, 10:29 AM EST

  It is all well and good to have a debate about immigration, but far too often this descends into mindless bigotry. When one talks about immigrants one must bear in mind that the law treats EEA nationals differently to Non-EEA nationals. Furthermore, Asylum seekers or others awaiting a decision on subsidiary protection have different obligations and rights. Furthermore, many of you pretend to only be concerned by economic factors, but the reality is even if the economy was booming you would not want any immigrants coming here. Some of this is down to bad journalism. Many sites (including this one) spoke of the 70,000 Irish people that left Ireland last year. However, in reality only 27,700 of those were Irish. Another example: people speak of the 42,000 that came to Ireland over the last twelve months –well half were Irish people returning home...let that sink in; 8,400 moved to the country from the UK and the rest of the old EU, while 9,000 came from the new accession states. A further 7,900 came from the rest of the world. So let’s all calm down and stop all this ‘invasion’ and ‘ethnosuicide’ rubbish.

• kinvara7 | Nov 24, 2011, 10:02 AM EST

  How quickly the ignorance spreads. The hypocrisy of some of the messages below is unbelievable. Imagine the response there would be if an American or British mayor said that he was no longer going to deal with Irish people because he found them aggressive? There would be outrage on this website and rightly so. What the mayor of Naas did was wrong. The people on this Island were not placed here thousands of years ago, to remain as a never changing distinct group until today. The Irish are the product of early settlers; Celts; Vikings -MacAuliffe (Son of Olaf); Normans –Fitzgerald (fils de Gérald); English -Emmet; Hugenots etc. The people who built Newgrange knew nothing about the Book of Kells or Christianity, and the people who made the Book of Kells knew nothing of Yeats, Guinness or Riverdance. Would we have had hurling without the Celts? Dublin without the Vikings? Yeats without the English or Blaas without the Hugenots? What is considered Irish is a constantly evolving thing. However, the idealized Irish character is one of kindness and decency (cineáltas agus cuibheas), it is derived from nurture rather than nature and it fuels our unique perspective on the world and life, and that is what we must promote and protect, not our ‘ethnic purity’ as some of you speak of.

• awoken32 | Nov 24, 2011, 09:18 AM EST

  bishop sean lets not forget that the ANC in africa a commiting mass genocide of the whites in south africa with the corrupted media turning a blind eye to it,as soon as the ANC took over the tageting of the white population started plus the whole country hot plunged into a third world hell hole because they could not manage the economy,FACT, just look at the crimewave throughout europe from mass immigration,white people who stand up an spaek out about it are demonised by the indocturnated facists,the democratic way of dealing with this would be the best way,let the indiginus peoples of europe or any other country have a vote wheather they want there country to be mass invaded,nad all you wanna be bonos would get a clear answer from the people,the majority of the best use common sence not indocturnated sence,the answer would be a resounding NO NO NO NO,

• awoken32 | Nov 24, 2011, 09:05 AM EST

  seanofmelbourne with his indocturnated veiws that beleives that mass immigration is fair an legal on the indiginus peoples of a country,even if the indiginus become a minority is so stupid,you might aswell get a rope an hang yourself to sane you from you moronic ideoligy,you are not proud or a protector of any race,your pride in your culture is well gone,your a wandering soul with no identidy,you will be surprised what will happen your own people if youse become the minority,the holocaust wouldnt have a patch on it,every culture should be respected and allowed to flourish,and should not be subjected to mass invasions on their lands an swamping their people,you should ask the aboriginees what happened them when they got ousted as the indiginus peoples of austrailia,they would tell you a story or two,two wrongs dont make a right,simply put the irish peole dont want mass immigration,it causes division its immorral and its illegal,let the irish vote on it

• BishopSean | Nov 24, 2011, 08:57 AM EST

  Let's not forget that, in addition to decent Africans who live and work in Ireland, there are many Irish who live and work in Africa too, probably earning significantly more there than Africans are earning in Ireland. Sometimes it is better to use a surgeon's scalpel than a meat cleaver or shotgun approach to solving problems.

• AlunPalmer | Nov 24, 2011, 01:29 AM EST

  It seems he got his marching orders pretty quickly, and that the people behind that were obviously white Irish people who were appalled, which speaks well of them. You can't ignore everyone from Africa just based on the bad behaviour of a few. They aren't all like that.

• SheilaRed | Nov 23, 2011, 07:28 PM EST

  In my opinion, Ireland is too small to be multi-cultural and risks ethnic and cultural suicide as the native population is replaced by immigrants of whatever race. The focus should be on limiting immigration doing everything possible to stem emigration.

• cynicus | Nov 23, 2011, 06:34 PM EST

  This is all about behaviour and not about race or colour. White persons can be just as harassing and intimidating. Such behaviour should not be tolerated from any person- race or colour has nothing to do with not having manners. Though, I do not recall anyone alleging that a white person uses alleged discrimination on the grounds of colour or race as a bargaining tool for preferential treatment; correct me if I am wrong. I could not give a s**t whether one is black or white or whatever! And that includes no negative discrimination AND no positive discrimination just because one is black, or white, or because of historical abuses perpetrated against them! Time to grow up.

• seansarto | Nov 23, 2011, 06:09 PM EST

  Thank yer man Bono for all his activism in the 80's..Reap what ya sow...At least it seems Bob Geldof acknowledged the rude awakening he had to the corruption in the African comunities after his "We Are the World" efforts fell into nothing more then thuggery...so he quit it....Then consider the line from the movie, "The Commitments"...where an Irish band manager says, "Say it once, say it loud, "I'm black and I'm proud"....But he's not..he just got played....Ahh, the GLORY of bein' rock stars an unlearned!...Trade a few minutes of pleasure for a people's and a nations hertiage and history.Played. Didn't King Solomon say study the ants...if you want to know how invasive the human nature can be.

• seanomelbourne | Nov 23, 2011, 04:52 PM EST

  Maryanna on her sick bigotted rants again.awoken32, "they'll not pull the wool over your bigotted eyes" How about lifting the veil of hate from your heart.The word "black" sure drags out the hate mongers.

• awoken32 | Nov 23, 2011, 03:59 PM EST

  UNITED NATIONALISTS THROUGHOUT EUROPE IS THE KEY TO THE SURVIVAL OF OUR BEAUTIFUL RACE AN CULTURES,WE LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD NOT THE INDOCTURNATED ONE,IM NO SHEEPLE AS THE WOOL WILL BE NEVER PULLED OVER MY EYES,KEEP IRELAND IRISH IT BELONGS TO THE INDUGINUS PEOPLE OF IRELAND AN NOT THE CORRUPTED ELITE

• GeorgeDillon | Nov 23, 2011, 03:52 PM EST

  This report from The Irish Examiner indicates that Nigerians continue to contribute to Ireland:------" Woman fined €500 for keeping brothel By Georgina O’Halloran A WOMAN who pleaded guilty to keeping a brothel has received a €500 fine at a district court. Clementina Omalade Festus, aged 28, was arrested at 21 Ard na Corann, Broomfield, Midleton, Co Cork, on July 5 last and taken to Mallow Garda Station, where she admitted the offence of brothel keeping. The Nigerian woman’s "whereabouts" was being advertised on a commercial website locally, Midleton District Court heard yesterday. The arrest followed a surveillance operation after gardaí received information in relation to suspicious activity at the house." Ms. Festus didn't possess a passport or any papers so that the Gardai couldn't be sure of her real name. She evidently believes in A World Without Borders, just like some of the dopes (kinvara, barebackgirl etc.) who post here believe.

• awoken32 | Nov 23, 2011, 03:50 PM EST

  He got sacked for speaking the truth,africans are arrogent invaders,the fact is the majority of irish do not want africans all over OUR COUNTRY,they all are thought that the whites are to blame for everything wrong with their society,play the race card at every oppurtunity,africans will never be irish,they can be born in ireland but still will be african,just in the same way that an irish man cannot be a chinese man or an asian,deport the majority of them from our country so as to leave an un threatning number,that satisfies the indiginus people of ireland,NO MORE IMMIGRATION MASS MASS DEPORTATIONS

• GeorgeDillon | Nov 23, 2011, 03:30 PM EST

  adrienrain: You're a hypocrite wind-bag. Before you go preening yourself on your "multicultural LA" (ever heard of Rodney King?) how about explaining to us the disappearance of ALL the Native American peoples who inhabited Southern California before the white man arrived. Temecula, Cupeño, Cahuillas--where are they now in your "multicultural paradise"? You're a fool.

• maryanna | Nov 23, 2011, 03:15 PM EST

  There are murders running NI and not a word about that -blood flows through our rivers NI. And not a word about that. NI Stormont is dysfunctional - corrupted.

• manhattan | Nov 23, 2011, 02:38 PM EST

  Good for him. The Irish are well meaning but it just doesn't work. With all the forced busing to integrate here in the U.S. Blacks still have a chip on there shoulder and some really hate white's. Funny, they yell discrimination yet when someone I know went to John Jay College in New York, the majority of Spanish and Blacks never spoke to this white girl in the 4 yrs. she was there. When Ireland opened it's doors to all these countries, they should have made sure there allegiance was to there adopted country and not there race.

• Springfield9 | Nov 23, 2011, 02:35 PM EST

  If Finn Gael would try to build a country for the IRISH, instead of for all - their might be evidence they had a brain. Every EU country that has developed significant African populations has also developed significant social problems for that group. Chew on that.

• Searlit | Nov 23, 2011, 02:33 PM EST

  @patrickdowney, my post wasn't meant to be against your post. I understand that people shouldn't be given favored status whatever their race or heritage. I do think it's wrong that the people of Ireland weren't given a choice to vote on the EU 'commandments' about this, per say. Don't even go there, as far as, what I know about tough times. I'm not writing my biograghy here, buddy.

• adrienrain | Nov 23, 2011, 02:21 PM EST

  Reading the comments here makes me rather glad my ancestors made their way to a land of diverse people. Enough of our forebears did so that, here in multicultural LA, I can attend the longest-running traditional session in S California, and watch Celtic musicians (with ancestral roots on every continent on earth) carrying on the best of Welsh, Irish & Scottish tradition - the music and arts. Sadly, I've met enough people from Ireland (by no means a majority here) who were absolutely so snobbish about who was REALLY Irish (I, for instance am only about 1/2 Irish, my famine-era ancestors having recklessly married Scots, Welsh, and Germans - oh NO!) as to be unpleasant and offensive. As I said, most immigrants from Ireland are NOT like that, but enough are to reveal an embarrassing streak of bigotry.

• GAPetrie | Nov 23, 2011, 02:01 PM EST

  What he probably meant was that he felt it would be more pertinent to simply represent all of the citizens of his county equally. If he felt that, due to his personal experiences with African-American Irish in Kill County, that special political needs or agendas, relating specifically to African-American causes, requested by that segment of the population, would have to be ignored on behalf of the greater county. It doesn't seem unreasonable; why should a segment of the population expect inequal treatment under the law and by the government? Imposing special agendas and laws on behalf of one's own race only leads to "separate but equal" status. Now, I can't speak for Ireland, but, American history has shown that racial segregation doesn't work out (socially and culturally) nearly as well as simply giving everyone equal treatment. Most of the racial-cultural mess America is in today is because of cultural measures that have taken-back the end of segregation to various extents. So we have this equal protection and representation under the law, but the cultures have refused to mix, and there are separate cultural and social channels reserved for the separate races. At least it's done socially instead of appropriated by law. And I think that's what he was probably trying to get at, but flubbed it.

• merefalow | Nov 23, 2011, 01:42 PM EST

  multiculturalism was just imposed,there was no democratic vote taken on whether people wanted it or not,it just happened,in britain IT WAS POLITICAL,TO CHANGE A VOTING PATTERN, it was to transform the status quo,which it did very successfully,i think one of the phrases used ,WE WILL RUB THEIR FACES IN DIVERSITY,which they have,ireland is a nation which has had to fight and suffer to obtain partial Independence,it also had the advantage of being comparitevely under poulated for the reasons we all know of,why do you want to overpopulate again ,aspecially as our young people have to go to the four corners of the world to find work,why import people who have little knowledge and care less about integration but plaY a SYSTEM which is crazily beneficial,its not the fault of the people who come for this largesse but the fault of our our rotten eu bought politicoes who are told to encourage and allow this system to enlarge at our expense and causing a problem which we do not require and cant afford,also problems for the future,there is no work for our own so there should be no point in allowing unqualified and nonproductive people in to live off the state..thats not racial predudice but baSIC COMMON SENSE,SOME THING THAT APEARS DEAD IN THE WORLD OF TODAY THANKS TO CRAZY DO GOODING SO CALLED HUMAN RIGHTS LEGISLATION..

• hybernia | Nov 23, 2011, 01:38 PM EST

  If you want to know the truth about black africans manners and attitude ask a few shop assistants. My sister who has worked in a local supermarket, often complained about how ignorant and aggressive their attitude was, the staff actually hated having to serve them. @ patrickdowney. How right you are.Could not agree more.

• GeorgeDillon | Nov 23, 2011, 01:23 PM EST

  Some good and measured posts on this topic. We await the intervention of nutters like posters kinvara, oloinsigh and sirpeter. My take on this is that the Mayor of Naas (why the hell does Naas have a mayor--it's a nothing town) is a fraud. If he was really concerned with the unrestricted immigration of Africans and other foreigners he would have said so in a rational way. Remember that most African migrants in Ireland are from the wealthy classes in their home countries--they're used to treating underlings like garbage. And they consider the Irish to be underlings. But that's only some--I am sure there are many decent African migrants in Ireland, probably from countries other than Nigeria. The problem is not that migrants are bad--mannered, the problem is that they're in Ireland. As PatrickDowney observes below, no Irish person ever was given the chance to vote on whether or not to import vast numbers of foreigners into his homeland. That democratic deficit creates resentment such as this guy Scully articulated. But if Scully has a problem with Mass Immigration why doesn't he take it up with his own political party?

• patrickdowney | Nov 23, 2011, 12:55 PM EST

  @Searlit What the hell do you know about "tough times"? You should try claiming political asylum in Ireland, as a white person, as I did, and see how many "breaks" YOU get from the system! LOL REMEMBER: THE IRISH PEOPLE WERE NEVER CONSULTED, OR EVEN ASKED THEIR OPINION ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANTED IRELAND TO BECOME MULTICULTURAL. THERE WAS NO OPEN DEBATE. THERE WAS NO REFERENDUM. THE ALIEN INVASION OF IRELAND WAS A SLOW, DELIBERATE PROCESS COMMITTED ON THE SLY...AND NOW THE IRISH ARE STARTING TO PAY FOR THEIR IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT COMES NEXT, I SUGGEST THAT YOU CONSULT WITH IRISH AMERICANS WHO KNOW THE SCORE. WE TRIED TO WARN YOU ALL OVER A DECADE AGO, BUT YOU DIDN'T LISTEN!!! ENJOY YOUR MULTICULTURAL IRELAND, YOU IGNORAMUSES!!!

• Searlit | Nov 23, 2011, 12:44 PM EST

  He lost his cool. He does regret it now. That's what happens when we humans let our frustration get the better of us. Times are tough for everyone! Let's give each other a break!

• patrickdowney | Nov 23, 2011, 12:40 PM EST

  Gerald Agendia and Diterine Tekumu are two Cameroonian nationals who are currently living in Ireland with their Irish-born daughter. Tekumu declared political asylum on September 23, 2009, at Dublin Airport, after having flown in directly from Helsinki, where she and her husband had spent upward of half a year. Tekumu's sister lives in Tallaght, Co. Dublin with her family. I reported this to a Detective Rispin at An Garda Siochana's Anti-Fraud Unit at Harcourt St. D2, in February 2010, in person and in writing, YET NOTHING WAS DONE. BLACK AFRICANS IN IRELAND ARE NOW BEING AFFORDED "SUPER HUMAN" STATUS BY THE ESTABLISHMENT. THEY CAN DO NO WRONG. SCULLY IS A COWARD. HE OUGHT TO HAVE STUCK BY HIS WORDS, BUT HE DIDN'T. LET'S PRAY THAT HE SUMMONS THE COURAGE TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND STAND UP FOR THE IRISH PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER ANTI-IRISH VIEWS THE IRISH ESTABLISHMENT AND THE MEDIA HOLD.

• RedBranch | Nov 23, 2011, 11:33 AM EST

  Down this road madness lies!

• cillowen | Nov 23, 2011, 10:52 AM EST

  they'd been craving to serve blacks for years upon years monies for black babies. u2 concern for such wonderful souls. No good deed goes unpunished. Now ol erin is being overrun while their own sons and daughters flee. That RC programming got them to punish themselves for a better hereafter.

• SeamusMor | Nov 23, 2011, 10:48 AM EST

  While I agree that Scully's statement about not representing black Africans was a mistake, I also think that a disproportionate amount of the dialogue has focused on his mind set and behavior, and not enough on the fact that people from other places have on obligation to respect the culture and values of Ireland. The message that aggressive and ill mannered abuse of public servants runs against the grain in Irish society is one all new comers should make note of, in spite of how Scully let the cat out of the bag.

• gobdawpaddy | Nov 23, 2011, 10:45 AM EST

  Several years ago Bertie Ahern lost the run of himself, deciding that Ireland was a global power and admitted huge numbers of immigrants. This delusional period is known as 'The Celtic Tiger' aka 'Bertie's Pantomine. A huge number of his flock went along with his fantasy, drinking the 'kool aid', thinking the good times could never end. I am aware of course that there were certain requitements on Ireland to accept people from other EU countries, but they went a lot further, unless I missed something and Nigeria plus others are part of the EU. This was a decision taken by the democratically elected Irish government and as the saying goes, 'you have made your bed, now sleep in it. These people were welcomed several years ago, you can't treat them this way now.

• RockNReel | Nov 23, 2011, 10:42 AM EST

  So, if a white guy comes in uses bad manners and bullying tactics to try get what he wants and Mr Scully asked him to leave and refused to represent him ? Would he not be within his rights to do so? I should certainly think so, if he felt threatened. But because there has been an influx of asylum seekers to Ireland during the Celtic Tiger Boom especially when the word went out that Ireland was thriving and the last government were handing out assistance money by the bucketful to them they cant understand now why they are not still getting it and they take it out on public representatives. Its absolutely nothing to do with colour !! A lot of them -especially Nigerians -abuse the system. A lot of them have been caught abusing the system. Just one example was a Nigerian woman was claiming poverty here and it turned out she had a posh house, land, and money in her own country but she was feathering her nest in Ireland and claiming thousands in benefits. As usual she tried using the Race card and took the government to the High court and Lost. She had cost the Irish tax payer over 1 million alone. There are hundreds like her here right now. But now that theres a world wide recession these guys are still looking and in most cases getting, free money, free car, free electricity, free home,. The Irish have become fed up with supporting them and their kids and their cover has been blown and now they are getting annoyed . I have dozens of black and Asian friends and they all agree with me that it gives black people all over a bad name and none of us decent living honest people want that, or indeed agree with it. Its the users and abusers of the system who have most to fear now --they have been outed and their response is aggressiveness. But that wont work in Ireland !!

• oldboreen | Nov 23, 2011, 10:38 AM EST

  Why is it considered taboo to voice the obvious? Some, by no means all people of colour, are prejudiced against non-coloured.It's quite simply a fact! I don't know Cllr Darren Scully-I didn't vote for him, but I can certainly understand his dismay at being insulted simply because of his white skin! Racial prejudice works both ways!

• TIMFITZ | Nov 23, 2011, 10:35 AM EST

  Are these Africans legal residents? What kind of demands were they making? Maybe there was a reason for his actions.

• LacarourSeanB | Nov 23, 2011, 10:29 AM EST

  Sad. Difficult. Wrong. No one wins here.

• steveross | Nov 23, 2011, 10:28 AM EST

  Gearoid, speak for yourself, not for everyone.

• bunkerisland | Nov 23, 2011, 10:10 AM EST

  Gearoid! Best you join Mr. Scully in the school yard. "...everyone is too afraid to say."? You know the entire community's views? Please!

• bunkerisland | Nov 23, 2011, 10:06 AM EST

  Mr. Scully's children have learned one hell of a lesson from their father. Perhaps they should bring him along to their school yard, practice a bit of bullying on him, then sit him in the corner then require community service through The Equality Authority for the length of his previous government service!

• Gearoid | Nov 23, 2011, 10:01 AM EST

  Yes, he was dumb, dumb to be saying what everyone is too afraid to say.

• gobdawpaddy | Nov 23, 2011, 07:39 AM EST

  Disgraceful. Hope Fine Gael has the sense to expel him. Ireland does not need this kind of inflammatary contribution with all the problems its people are currently experiencing. This guy is too dumb to represent anyone.