Irish mayor quits over refusal to represent African residents - AUDIO
Kildare mayor claimed Black immigrants were too aggressive towards him
Published Thursday, November 24, 2011, 10:07 AM
Updated Thursday, November 24, 2011, 10:07 AM
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IrelandNorth | Nov 25, 2011, 06:44 AM EST
Freedom of speech was a hard won fundamental human right. He's entitled to recount his experiences of his constituency. The trouble with political correctness is that it's political censorship by the back door, a new form of secular dogma with which to muzzle the faithful.
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awoken32 | Nov 25, 2011, 06:37 AM EST
seanomelbourne a proud dubliner lol,i dont hear you speak up for your fellow dubliners or felloow irsh,your all about standing up for the illegal invasion of this country,i tell you one thing the majority irish people would not be proud of you as being irish,your a turncoat
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kinvara7 | Nov 25, 2011, 04:45 AM EST
George: Could you point out where I am ‘lying’. Could you tell us where you get the figure of 1000 migrants every week? You have sought to misrepresent me on a number of matters, but that is nothing new as you find it easier to argue against those misrepresentations. It is Awoken who doesn’t believe Black Irish citizens should vote in such an election, are you going to admonish him for that view? George you talk a great deal about culture but on the numerous times we have spoken about Irish culture, it has become painfully clear that you are ignorant of that which you presume to be a protector of. You talk about ‘ethnosuicide’ well could you explain to us what an ethnic Irish person is? Don’t avoid that question, George, as you have a habit of doing that. @Awoken: You said ‘YOU KEEP SATNDING UP FOR THE IMMIGRANTS,I KEEP STANDING UP FOR THE INDIGINUS,THE IMMIGRANTS KEEP STANDING UP FOR THE IMMIGRANTS,WHO IS THE ODD ONE OUT HERE?’…. Well, I guess you are the odd one out. However, for the record, what I am standing up for is what is best about the Irish character. I am trying to remind people that Irish culture has evolved over millennia, and it is a living thing; it is not set in stone. The idealized Irish character is one of kindness and decency (cineáltas agus cuibheas), it is derived from nurture rather than nature and it fuels our unique perspective on the world and life, and that is what we must promote and protect, not our ‘ethnic purity’ as some of you speak of. To have a debate about immigration is fine, but to let it descend into bigotry is not.
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timbobdennehy | Nov 25, 2011, 03:58 AM EST
once their sent home to africa when they die i dont care,should,nt be buried in irish graveyards.
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seanomelbourne | Nov 24, 2011, 05:36 PM EST
awoken32 you sure like arguing with yourself, you condemn africans living in Ireland and use as a stupid analogy the population of Nigeria as a comparison Then you condone the white takeover of South Africa as legitimate and the ANC are somehow subhuman.I can see under your veil and look into the bigotry and hate in your heart.I am proud to be a Dubliner and love my country's heritage,The difference between you and I is your a bigotted racist and I'm not.I suppose the great black footballer Paul McGrath was somehow less Irish than you because of the colour of his skin.I was in a Manila restaurant in 1988 and the Phillipino pianist played "Kevin Barry" should I have condemned him and beckoned on him to stop because of the colour of his skin? Go have a jar with the rest of the bigots on this site and leave the world to us humanists
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awoken32 | Nov 24, 2011, 01:15 PM EST
SURVIVAL OF THE CULTURE AN THE MAJORITY OF INDIGINUS IRISG MUST BE MAINTAINED AT ALL COSTS
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GeorgeDillon | Nov 24, 2011, 01:00 PM EST
Where to begin with our resident garbageman kinvara. First, he is lying again about the rate of immigration to Ireland. The fact is that this year, like last, there'll be about 70.000 foreigners getting their new PS number, the rough equivalent of our Social Security number. That's more than a thousand migrants streaming into Ireland every week! That would be the equivalent of say 75000 legal immigrants arriving here every week! This at a time when young Irish men and women are abandoning their country to seek work elsewhere. All the opponents of Mass Immigration to Ireland ask is that the democratic deficit be rectified, by allowing for a vote of Irish people on the topic. Why has this been denied? I'll ignore kinvara's utterly stupid reference to Black Irish citizens not being allowed vote. If they are duly eligible to vote of course they should be given the chance. What a dope you are. But kinvara is actually right on one thing. People in Ireland never acquiesced to Mass Immigration, even when the Irish economy was strong. That's because while the evil of Mass Immigration becomes clearer when the economy is bad, at bottom it's not an economic thing. Mass Immigration poses a cultural problem--why should a nation give away its culture in its own ancient homeland? We've seen what happens to people who lose their homeland--Native Americans, Polynesians, the Chamorro of Guam, the Palestinians etc. A country cannot import 25% foreigners in scarcely a decade and remain itself. It's ethnosuicide, and the majority of Irish people don't want to kill their own nation.
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awoken32 | Nov 24, 2011, 12:55 PM EST
IRELAND FOR THE IRISH AN THATS THAT,YEH AN I MEAN THE WHITE INDIGINUS IRISH,MASS IMMIRATION NEVER HAD A MANDATE,IT IS ILLEGAL NAD THE MAJORITY OF THE INDIGINUS IRISH PEOPLE DO NOT WANT IT,IF A PERSON IS FLEEING PERSECUTION HE OR SHE HAS TO GO TO THE NEAREST SAVE HAVEN TO THEIR COUNTRIES BORDER AN NOT TRAVEL THE WHOLE OF EUROPE TO INVADE IRELAND,NAME ONE COUNTRY MULTICULTURE HAS WORKED?NAME ONE COUNTRY THAT THE INDIGINUS PEOPLE HAD A VOTE ON IT,AND AS CRIME GOES EVERY COUNTRY HAS ITS FAIR SHARE OF INDIGINUS PEOPLE COMMITING CRIME,THAT DOES NOT MEAN WE IMPORT CRIME FROM EVERY CORNER OF THE WORLD,JUST LOOK AT MOORE STREET CITY CENTRE DUBLIN,NIGERIAN SHOPS ALL OVER IT,WALK INTO ANY OF THOSE SHOPS AN THERE IS NOTHING FOR SALE IN THEM,THEY ARE FRONT FOR ORGANISED DRUG AN FRAUD GANGS,LOOK AT LONDON,THE COCKNEYS ARE A MINORITY IN THERE OWN COUNTRY BECAUSE OF UNBRIDLED MASS INVASIONS,LOOK AT FRANCE AN THE PROBLEMS THERE,LOOK AT SWEDEN NORWAY THE LIST GOES ON AN ON,MULTICULTURE FORCED DOES NOT WORK AT THIS TIME IN HISTORY,AND MORE IMPORTANTLY ITS ILLEGAL AN IMMORAL,YOU KEEP SATNDING UP FOR THE IMMIGRANTS,I KEEP STANDING UP FOR THE INDIGINUS,THE IMMIGRANTS KEEP STANDING UP FOR THE IMMIGRANTS,WHO IS THE ODD ONE OUT HERE? AN AS FOR THE HORSE OF TROY IT IS A METAPHOR OF WHAT MASS IMMIGRATION IS,WAR CAN BE WAGED MILITARILIY OF THROUGH THEM WOMB,SERIOUSLY MAN YOU ARE SO BUSY WITH YOUR INDOCTURNATED BELEIVE THAT MASS IMMIGRATION IS CORRECT,WHEN ALL THE EVIDENCE TELL YOU ITS NOT,IT COULDNT BE MORE WRONG,AN STILL YOU CLING ONTO THE NOTION THAT EVERYTHING IS ROSY AN THE WORLD IS GREAT WHEN THE WORD INDIGINUS BECOMES EXTINCTION
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kinvara7 | Nov 24, 2011, 11:28 AM EST
Where to begin? Look I just pointed out that we are the product of many different peoples and cultures, and you agreed with me; that people coming to Ireland is nothing new, so why is it different now? You say that ‘the world is not some little plyground with everyone loving each other’ [sic] and I agree with you, but what is your solution? That groups of children should stay in separate playgrounds? Would everything be lovely then, Awoken? I don’t think so. Didn’t Ireland have crime and social problems before the immigrants arrived? You say that ‘we as a human race are not ready for that yet,obviously or we would be there already wouldnt we?’ [sic] I don’t really understand what you are saying. Sure we have to begin before we get ‘there’ as you put it. You say that freedom and survival is never a given. Well survival of what? You say that indigenous Irish people should be allowed vote on it, so I take it you don’t think that Black Irish citizens should have a vote on it? Finally, you say that ‘the word indiginus shoulsd be took out of the dictionary’ [sic]. Oh no, please do go over to the dictionary and take the word indigenous out of it! I know that was a cheap shot, but we can call it even after you accused me of varnishing the Horse of Troy or something.
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awoken32 | Nov 24, 2011, 10:46 AM EST
Kinvara how dare you say that there is know indiginus irish,yes you are correct about the invasions of ireland back in the time,but every country has a history of invasion,that does not mean that the word indiginus shoulsd be took out of the dictionary,as in your argument there is no people that are indiginus to any country,listen the world is not some little plyground with everyone loving each other and each others cultures,as you seem to think,i wish it was but the fact is,we as a human race are not ready for that yet,obviously or we would be there already wouldnt we?freedom an survival is never a given,end of the day the INDIGINUS PEOPLE OF IRELAND SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE ON IT,AS WE THE PEOPLE OWN THIS COUNTRY,YOU KINVARA WOULD NOT ONLY HAVE ACCEPTED THE HORSE OF TROY YOU WOULD HAVE VARNISHRD IT,YOUR TO BUST TRYING TO BE NICE RATHER THAN BEEN REAL
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kinvara7 | Nov 24, 2011, 10:29 AM EST
It is all well and good to have a debate about immigration, but far too often this descends into mindless bigotry. When one talks about immigrants one must bear in mind that the law treats EEA nationals differently to Non-EEA nationals. Furthermore, Asylum seekers or others awaiting a decision on subsidiary protection have different obligations and rights. Furthermore, many of you pretend to only be concerned by economic factors, but the reality is even if the economy was booming you would not want any immigrants coming here. Some of this is down to bad journalism. Many sites (including this one) spoke of the 70,000 Irish people that left Ireland last year. However, in reality only 27,700 of those were Irish. Another example: people speak of the 42,000 that came to Ireland over the last twelve months –well half were Irish people returning home...let that sink in; 8,400 moved to the country from the UK and the rest of the old EU, while 9,000 came from the new accession states. A further 7,900 came from the rest of the world. So let’s all calm down and stop all this ‘invasion’ and ‘ethnosuicide’ rubbish.
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kinvara7 | Nov 24, 2011, 10:02 AM EST
How quickly the ignorance spreads. The hypocrisy of some of the messages below is unbelievable. Imagine the response there would be if an American or British mayor said that he was no longer going to deal with Irish people because he found them aggressive? There would be outrage on this website and rightly so. What the mayor of Naas did was wrong. The people on this Island were not placed here thousands of years ago, to remain as a never changing distinct group until today. The Irish are the product of early settlers; Celts; Vikings -MacAuliffe (Son of Olaf); Normans –Fitzgerald (fils de Gérald); English -Emmet; Hugenots etc. The people who built Newgrange knew nothing about the Book of Kells or Christianity, and the people who made the Book of Kells knew nothing of Yeats, Guinness or Riverdance. Would we have had hurling without the Celts? Dublin without the Vikings? Yeats without the English or Blaas without the Hugenots? What is considered Irish is a constantly evolving thing. However, the idealized Irish character is one of kindness and decency (cineáltas agus cuibheas), it is derived from nurture rather than nature and it fuels our unique perspective on the world and life, and that is what we must promote and protect, not our ‘ethnic purity’ as some of you speak of.
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awoken32 | Nov 24, 2011, 09:18 AM EST
bishop sean lets not forget that the ANC in africa a commiting mass genocide of the whites in south africa with the corrupted media turning a blind eye to it,as soon as the ANC took over the tageting of the white population started plus the whole country hot plunged into a third world hell hole because they could not manage the economy,FACT, just look at the crimewave throughout europe from mass immigration,white people who stand up an spaek out about it are demonised by the indocturnated facists,the democratic way of dealing with this would be the best way,let the indiginus peoples of europe or any other country have a vote wheather they want there country to be mass invaded,nad all you wanna be bonos would get a clear answer from the people,the majority of the best use common sence not indocturnated sence,the answer would be a resounding NO NO NO NO,
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awoken32 | Nov 24, 2011, 09:05 AM EST
seanofmelbourne with his indocturnated veiws that beleives that mass immigration is fair an legal on the indiginus peoples of a country,even if the indiginus become a minority is so stupid,you might aswell get a rope an hang yourself to sane you from you moronic ideoligy,you are not proud or a protector of any race,your pride in your culture is well gone,your a wandering soul with no identidy,you will be surprised what will happen your own people if youse become the minority,the holocaust wouldnt have a patch on it,every culture should be respected and allowed to flourish,and should not be subjected to mass invasions on their lands an swamping their people,you should ask the aboriginees what happened them when they got ousted as the indiginus peoples of austrailia,they would tell you a story or two,two wrongs dont make a right,simply put the irish peole dont want mass immigration,it causes division its immorral and its illegal,let the irish vote on it
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